Sakho Suspended For Failing Doping Test.

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All the more reason for us to sign another defender in the summer.

Disappointed but unfortunately, you can't just claim ignorance and expect to get away with it.

Yet another curveball thrown at Klopp.
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
For those thinking drugs can't really help footballers.

Sorry but wrong.

Two games a week takes its toll. Anyone else can throw in a big game but to cone back 3 days later and do it again requires recovery and it's the recovery where the drugs really help.

You can run all day and come back and do it again. If you can't then someone takes your place and you don't get in..... well pop some pills and hey you can do it.

Nothing to do with talents it's all about recovery.
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No one's saying it doesn't help. I'm just saying Fabio Borini can run as far and as much as he wants per game, he'll still never be Zlatan Ibrahimovic, who probably only runs half as much as Borini does.
 
No smoke without fire.

For there to have been traces initially then he must have taken something at some point.

IMO six months isn't enough. Rio got nine months for deliberately missing a test!
 
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Jimmy Squarefoot said:
All the more reason for us to sign another defender in the summer.

Disappointed but unfortunately, you can't just claim ignorance and expect to get away with it.

Yet another curveball thrown at Klopp.
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All true.

Let's everyone down cos rodgers was gone months so there no excuse unless he thinks he's a pig to eat and thinks injury = take pills to lose weight
 
Divockinho said:
No smoke without fire.

For there to have been traces initially then he must have taken something at some point.

IMO six months isn't enough. Rio got nine months for deliberately missing a test!
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It should be similar to the Kolo case, in my opinion. If they are happy with Sakho not deliberately trying to cover use of enhancing drugs or using them as enhancing drugs then it shouldn't be a massively long ban. Regardless of what we think we should be planning for 2 years without Sakho though, we can't risk going into next season hoping he'll be back pretty sharpish and he gets banned for 2 years +.
 
Lucaaas said:
It should be similar to the Kolo case, in my opinion. If they are happy with Sakho not deliberately trying to cover use of enhancing drugs or using them as enhancing drugs then it shouldn't be a massively long ban. Regardless of what we think we should be planning for 2 years without Sakho though, we can't risk going into next season hoping he'll be back pretty sharpish and he gets banned for 2 years +.
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How long before a decision about Kolo was reached?
 
moreinjuredthanowen said:
For those thinking drugs can't really help footballers.

Sorry but wrong.

Two games a week takes its toll. Anyone else can throw in a big game but to cone back 3 days later and do it again requires recovery and it's the recovery where the drugs really help.

You can run all day and come back and do it again. If you can't then someone takes your place and you don't get in..... well pop some pills and hey you can do it.

Nothing to do with talents it's all about recovery.
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Do you think painkillers should be banned?
 
Tobes said:
Everyday use Painkillers aren't performance enhancing, daft argument
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Your performance would clearly be better with them than without

Anyway the next step is then to consider other drugs that help but are based on "recovery" rather than "enhancement"

Anything that's based on repairing the body must be considered medicine and it would probably be against human rights to ban, but recovering from a game of football in time for the next one is clearly enhancing the performance in the second game

What is the actual definition used to distinguish between acceptable and not?
 
Always wondered that...like anti inflammatory injections before a game.

Although since playing on an injury can result in long term damage and shorten a career I'd assume it's not done as much these days.

Didn't Owen get loads of injections so he could play...
 
astroturfnaut said:
Your performance would clearly be better with them than without

Anyway the next step is then to consider other drugs that help but are based on "recovery" rather than "enhancement"

Anything that's based on repairing the body must be considered medicine and it would probably be against human rights to ban, but recovering from a game of football in time for the next one is clearly enhancing the performance in the second game

What is the actual definition used to distinguish between acceptable and not?
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It's simple - anything that improves performance and is a drug....

I.e. Performance enhancing.......
 
Tobes said:
Everyday use Painkillers aren't performance enhancing, daft argument
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Cortozone injections? With one you can play, without you can't. That's pretty performance enhancing.

It's a grey area in my opinion.

Sakhos an idiot for what ever he's taken. 6 month ban minimum, you're got that because of the circumstances but other drug bans could be 2 years so he'll be lucky to only get 6 months.

He'll plead ignorance no doubt but he's potentially just ruin the best part of his career and will miss European championships in his home country. Only himself to blame.

Inteigued as as to how wages work if he is suspended for 6-12months so we still pay him?
 
DirtyFrank said:
Always wondered that...like anti inflammatory injections before a game.

Although since playing on an injury can result in long term damage and shorten a career I'd assume it's not done as much these days.

Didn't Owen get loads of injections so he could play...
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Pain killers and anti inflammatories aren't performance enhancing, they're just masking the symptoms of muscle injuries.
 
InBiscanWeTrust said:
Cortozone injections? With one you can play, without you can't. That's pretty performance enhancing.

It's a grey area in my opinion.

Sakhos an idiot for what ever he's taken. 6 month ban minimum, you're got that because of the circumstances but other drug bans could be 2 years so he'll be lucky to only get 6 months.

He'll plead ignorance no doubt but he's potentially just ruin the best part of his career and will miss European championships in his home country. Only himself to blame.

Inteigued as as to how wages work if he is suspended for 6-12months so we still pay him?
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It's not grey at all. Performance enhancing is anything that can provide an unnatural increase in performance as a direct result of the drug being used. Cortisone injections don't increase the performance of the muscle itself, it's just a mask for an injury
 
Tobes said:
It's simple - anything that improves performance and is a drug....

I.e. Performance enhancing.......
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So strictly to that definition...player carrying injury without pain killers -performance poor. Same player given pain killers pre match - performance improved.

All substances entering the body are a chemical...oxygenated blood transfusions aren't unnatural being the players own blood not a drug but considered cheating.

When is it about gaining advantage and being a risky or harmful practice?
 
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