Match Day Thread Saints v Liverpool Saturday 17th August 3:00pm

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  1. Osvaldorama

    Osvaldorama Well-Known Member

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    I think Klopp is definitely up there, he's a coach as much as he is a manager. He definitely improves players, and can clearly spot a player in the transfer market on top of that.

    It's a really tough call between him, pep and Poch as the best manager in the world IMO. I honestly think that all of them could do well at any club in the world, regardless of funds.
     
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  2. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    He can clearly spot a player in the transfer market??? You don’t need to be a coaching or talent spotting genius to see VVD, Mane, Alisson, etc were good.

    He’s a good coach.
     
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  3. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Obviously you can. I doubt you could even buy a City shirt in Rome or Marseille.
     
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  4. MLsfc

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    Indeed, t
    My post was about Liverpool, not City. There are plenty of reasons City arent a huge club as I explain before - but to claim to be the biggest you obviously need to have won your domestic league relatively recently.
     
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  5. fran-MLs little camera

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    Winning the league by playing well over a season is a better judge of team and manager quality than winning a cup in a knockout tournament. Winning the CL is a fantastic thing but not the same as winning the league title (especially on multiple occasions). Has to be mentioned that the league was close last season and on previous occasions, so a Liverpool win may be just round the corner. Brace yourselves. Klopp can be annoying, but a complete amateur as an annoying personality compared with Mourinho....thank heavens he's gone and not on TV all the time.

    Damn you, Sky.
     
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  6. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Yeah, I deliberately avoided talking about ‘big’ club’s as that’s such a loaded expression.

    There is no trophy for being recognisable, therefore there are no rules governing how such status is acquired. So no, you don’t ‘obviously’ need to have won your domestic league recently.

    In my opinion, and it’s only that, there is only one other English club with anything like Liverpool’s international profile, and that’s Man Utd; not City, nor Arsenal, who won the PL fairly recently. And not Chelsea, despite their recent CL trophy (takes more than one).

    Edit: might have a rethink about Chelsea. I happened to be making a delivery at Stamford Bridge the summer of their CL win - the club shop was open, and affluent tourists were coming out with armfuls of merchandise. City won the league that season; I wonder if they got the same boost to merchandise sales?
     
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  7. StJabbo1

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    Might this sum up the club class system, insert club at perceived level add progressively shorter people as required.
    NB no shortism intended in this post
     
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  8. saintlyhero

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    You need a sustained dynasty to get to the huge levels of support that Liverpool or Man Utd enjoy.

    My friends boy is 9 and there are plenty of Man City shirts amongst his mates, just as there would have been Man Utd shirts in the 90s and Liverpool in the 80s.

    People don’t tend to swap teams, so you’ve got to get them before their brains fully develop
     
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  9. ChilcoSaint

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    Surprising that Portsmouth have so few fans these days, that being the case...
     
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  10. Archers Road

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    <laugh>
     
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