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Match Day Thread Saints v Brighton. Weds 31st Jan 7.44PM

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  1. SaintinNZ

    SaintinNZ Well-Known Member

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    I've seen this said elsewhere before. Not directed at you personally, but the notion that MP2 will get us relegated and then miraculously turn us into winners in the championship, guiding us to success after success is exactly the kind of blindness that seems to be afflicting the higher ups at the moment. It will never happen. He will get us relegated and then relegated again. He couldnt beat a championship team at the moment and in the championship he will have a lot less to work with.

    I want him to turn it around and find a formula. He hasnt and time is not on his side.
     
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  2. Saints_Alive

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    He found it (or something near to it) against Spurs, then inexplicably changed the team in the next match, the man is a serial tinkerer.
     
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  3. Saintmagic

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    He is a good manager at being the underdog, hence our good performances against the big teams this year. He just has no clue what to do when we are the favourites
     
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  4. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    He plays the same team and tactics regardless. That’s the problem.
     
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  5. Saintmagic

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    Exactly, he sets up as the underdog, just like he did at Alaves. He is the epitome of that classic argument of whether someone can do well at a small team and move to a better team and still do well. I’m sure you’ve heard people question whether someone like Dyche could make the step up
     
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  6. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    What I can’t understand is that a supposedly well-run club with all the data available about every team he has to prepare for, doesn’t have people pointing out the strengths and weaknesses of those teams, and highlighting that certain tactics would be better than others. Do his assistants and analysts never suggest that, say, Boufal would be better than Davis against a certain type of team?

    I simply don’t understand how a manager can be left to flounder to this extent without any help being available to him. It’s almost like Reed and co. want him to fail, but I just don’t understand why!
     
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  7. AshbySaint

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    Didn't he just beat a championship team?
     
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  8. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    Possibly.

    'Not really good enough' sounds spot on though.
     
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  9. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    So his fault is that he keeps tinkering with the team, while playing the same team regardless?

    I see.
     
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  10. Missing Lambo

    Missing Lambo Well-Known Member

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    Very different times. We went down and held on to our best players. The financial loss was not as significant.The gulf between Div 1 and 2 was much narrower (we won the Cup as a Div 2 team in '76; Sunderland and West Ham did the same in '73 and '80). And of course there was no social media!
     
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  11. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    He has not played the same XI consecutively for at least the last 3 months that I can remember.
    The cautious mindset and tactics have been the same though.
     
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  12. Saintmagic

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    Besides Leicester and Everton I can't think of another squad that I would swap ours for outside the top 6. However the difference between us and the majority of the other sides isn't very big and when you throw in things like poor form and poor management the result is where we are right now.
     
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  13. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Badly worded by me. Tactically he’s completely rigid.
     
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  14. woolstonian

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    Cough...Fulham...cough
     
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