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The RDBD said:
They seem to be more bitter about Pochettino leaving than the summer exodus of players. :D
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Bitter? Nope. The players that left didn't want to play for us and two bitched about it until we sold them, so glad we got rid. Pochettino should have been honest from the start and said he was leaving or wouldn't sign a new contract. But then when are people in football honest?

Most of the posts from Saints fans in here seem arrogant but really it's just excitement that we have started well and proved the doom mongers wrong (for now). We still all know that we have no chance of competing with the bigger teams. We will be happy if we finish 8th again. Like most Spurs fans we know the top 3 or 4 teams will be the same as last season ( maybe not Liverpool), but we are just happy to get as high up the table as we can.
 
Beefy said:
Bitter? Nope. The players that left didn't want to play for us and two bitched about it until we sold them, so glad we got rid. Pochettino should have been honest from the start and said he was leaving or wouldn't sign a new contract. But then when are people in football honest?
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Out of interest, what did he say that made it sound like he was staying?
 
Yid Vicious said:
Out of interest, what did he say that made it sound like he was staying?
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Everytime he was asked about it he would say "we leave it until the end of the season then we will sit down" all with a smiley face. He strung along our board and the fans until he knew Spurs were interested then left with in days. He still had a year on his contract and I thought he would at least stay until then.
Another thing that has annoyed me is now seeing him at Spurs you can see he has a bit of passion about him. He actually gets up and looks pissed off if you play ****, he never did that with us. We all knew he would go on to a bigger club in the end, but the way he went about it annoyed a lot of us.
The same with Lallana and Lovren, we don't mind players wanting to go to bigger clubs it's how they acted that pissed Saints fans off. You see no hate( or very little) for Shaw, Chambers and Lambert.
 
Beef is right. It was the way it was done. Parading around the pitch after the last home match and then jumping ship asap. Still we have come oput of it well and imo have a better manager now.
 
Beefy said:
Everytime he was asked about it he would say "we leave it until the end of the season then we will sit down" all with a smiley face. He strung along our board and the fans until he knew Spurs were interested then left with in days. He still had a year on his contract and I thought he would at least stay until then.
Another thing that has annoyed me is now seeing him at Spurs you can see he has a bit of passion about him. He actually gets up and looks pissed off if you play ****, he never did that with us. We all knew he would go on to a bigger club in the end, but the way he went about it annoyed a lot of us.
The same with Lallana and Lovren, we don't mind players wanting to go to bigger clubs it's how they acted that pissed Saints fans off. You see no hate( or very little) for Shaw, Chambers and Lambert.
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We know that feeling with Berba, Modric and Bale. It sucks but when you know you've ripped off the buying club by making them pay a premium then it allows you to have a slight smile, baring in mind we paid less than £40m for the three combined, we sold them for about £140m+, though don't get me wrong, I'd have much rather kept all three as players like that are irreplaceable.

You guys must've made an immense profit too? Gotta be over £100m surely?

As for the Poch and passion, that's probably down to having Levy as your boss! <laugh>
 
Beefy said:
Everytime he was asked about it he would say "we leave it until the end of the season then we will sit down" all with a smiley face. He strung along our board and the fans until he knew Spurs were interested then left with in days. He still had a year on his contract and I thought he would at least stay until then.
Another thing that has annoyed me is now seeing him at Spurs you can see he has a bit of passion about him. He actually gets up and looks pissed off if you play ****, he never did that with us. We all knew he would go on to a bigger club in the end, but the way he went about it annoyed a lot of us.
The same with Lallana and Lovren, we don't mind players wanting to go to bigger clubs it's how they acted that pissed Saints fans off. You see no hate( or very little) for Shaw, Chambers and Lambert.
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Well what went differently to what he said then? He waited until the end of the season and got offered a job at a club with greater resources and took it. If you feel strung along then it's you're own fault for taking what he said as a positive when it actually sounds pretty ominous. As for the timeframe between us becoming interested and him leaving, that's pretty normal, I'm sure you've signed players and managers before where it's been a quick process from contact to signing.

Seems like a lot of hate over very little, especially compared to how the likes of Berbatov, Modric and Judas left us.
 
Yid Vicious said:
Well what went differently to what he said then? He waited until the end of the season and got offered a job at a club with greater resources and took it. If you feel strung along then it's you're own fault for taking what he said as a positive when it actually sounds pretty ominous. As for the timeframe between us becoming interested and him leaving, that's pretty normal, I'm sure you've signed players and managers before where it's been a quick process from contact to signing.

Seems like a lot of hate over very little, especially compared to how the likes of Berbatov, Modric and Judas left us.
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Pochettino doesn't really get a lot of 'hate' now, it's mainly Lallana and Lovren. I don't hate, him I just dislike him for not being honest. If he had said "The guy that brought me hear is gone so I want to move on" I would have said fair play. Even our board thought Pochettino would stay. So he obviously was saying positive stuff to them.

What did Berba and Modric do? Did they do the same as Lallana and try and make it the boards fault before saying they would never wear the shirt again?
Or a Lovren where he said his head was already at another club and he doesn't want to play for us any more. Then bitching about us rejecting crappy offers on social media?
 
"Yep that's the figures I have heard."

If you finish at least 8th this season, then I guess that is good transfer business done / money made.
 
I guess their supporters have some "chicken and egg" angst still to release
(did Pochettino leaving increase the likelihood that certain players would also leave,
or did he leave knowing he was likely to lose over the summer who he deemed key players etc) .
 
The RDBD said:
I guess their supporters have some "chicken and egg" angst still to release
(did Pochettino leaving increase the likelihood that certain players would also leave,
or did he leave knowing he was likely to lose over the summer who he deemed key players etc) .
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Shaw was leaving even before he played in our first team, Man Utd wanted him 2 seasons ago. Cortese managered to get him to stay one more year and sign a new contract so we could get more money.

Lovren used us as a stepping stone to get his career back on track after a **** season at Lyon. (I don't mind that, I just don't like how he acted).

Lambert was declining anyways and wouldn't have been a starter.

Chambers had a buy out clause.

Lallana wanted to play in Europe.

I don't think any would have stayed if Poch had.
 
So then the question becomes whether Pochettino could have done at least as well as he
did last season, with some serious squad churn over the summer. Hypothetical that one is.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Pochettino said that he'd leave if Cortese did. http://www1.skysports.com/football/...pochettino-will-leave-if-nicola-cortese-quits
Cortese left, so Pochettino did, too.

Those transferleague figures aren't too far off, I think, but there are a few (Chambers, in particular) which seem to be their entire possible fee if all clauses are triggered.
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He did but then he said he changed his mind, hence why he stayed on for a season. He stayed until Spurs had a opening and then quickly left.
 
The RDBD said:
So then the question becomes whether Pochettino could have done at least as well as he
did last season, with some serious squad churn over the summer. Hypothetical that one is.
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Well we recruited well and spent around £60m, so I see no reason why he couldn't have.
 
Beefy said:
He did but then he said he changed his mind, hence why he stayed on for a season. He stayed until Spurs had a opening and then quickly left.
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Cortese left in the middle of January. Pochettino stayed for the rest of the season, not another one.
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Cortese left in the middle of January. Pochettino stayed for the rest of the season, not another one.
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You can argue all you want. The Saints board believed he would stay on as they kept saying we will talk after the final game. So obviously Pochettino had given them some positive answers. He just stalled until Spurs finally came in. He still stayed on for the rest of the season didn't he? He just stalled and let everyone think he was looking to stay until he saw a chance to go.
 
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