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We are assuming that we actually bid the release clause though. If we haven't then Spartak have done nothing wrong.
 
Saintmagic said:
We are assuming that we actually bid the release clause though. If we haven't then Spartak have done nothing wrong.
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Sounds like we have now met their valuation though. Release clauses don't mean much, clubs don't have to sell the player at that price. Seems the sticking point is them getting a replacement in.
 
Let's assume that we really want Promes...rather than a case of he can do a job for us, but so can someone else....our position may be to hope to get him in the summer if Spartak can't spare him at the moment. I know....everyone will jump up and down and talk about how much relegation costs, but there are no guarantees even if we bought him....and no certainty of relegation if we don't. It seems (and who really knows) that Promes and Saints really want this to happen, but Spartak (who hold the cards) don't...at the moment. A bit hasty to assume we are trying to do this on the cheap....Spartak know they only have to string us along until this evening and then they get too keep their player.
 
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fran-MLs little camera said:
Let's assume that we really want Promes...rather than a case of he can do a job for us, but so can someone else....our position may be to hope to get him in the summer if Spartak can't spare him at the moment. I know....everyone will jump up and down and talk about how much relegation costs, but there are no guarantees even if we bought him....and no certainty of relegation if we don't. It seems (and who really knows) that Promes and Saints really want this to happen, but Spartak (who hold the cards) don't...at the moment. A bit hasty to assume we are trying to do this on the cheap....Spartak know they only have to string us along until this evening and then they get too keep their player.
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That sounds like a fair summary, and in normal circumstances I'd agree with pretty much every word.

The one point I'd add, however, is that Spartak know we're desperate, and that has strengthened their hand. We also know we're desperate, so maybe, just this once, we should have been willing to take desperate measures?
 
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Funnily enough, I thought that I would be a lot more frustrated than I am feeling.
I've sort of accepted it and now and just want to see the club crack on with the task at hand. We do not have a relegation squad, I truly believe that and it is time for us to start proving it on the pitch. There are signs that the fans are up for the battle in recent home games, let's make SMS a cauldron.

Come on all Saints let's show the rest of the league what we a really made of!...COYRs
 
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So Les has given Adam Leitch his side of the story I see. I'm not too worried as I never expected this one to happen. I'd rather we looked at getting a centre back in tbh.
 
San Pellegrino said:
Sounds like we have now met their valuation though. Release clauses don't mean much, clubs don't have to sell the player at that price. Seems the sticking point is them getting a replacement in.
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Depends on the release clause tbf. The ones in Spain work that it is a fee for the player to buy out his contract. So technically when one is met the player pays the club he plays for x million and then moves to his new club on a free. Obviously the buying club just pays the clause.

If this is how the Promes one is (I have no idea) then it sounds like we have reached an agreement on the fee with Spartak but that fee is less than his release clause, so they can still reject.
 
Saints_Alive said:
Funnily enough, I thought that I would be a lot more frustrated than I am feeling.
I've sort of accepted it and now and just want to see the club crack on with the task at hand. We do not have a relegation squad, I truly believe that and it is time for us to start proving it on the pitch. There are signs that the fans are up for the battle in recent home games, let's make SMS a cauldron.

Come on all Saints let's show the rest of the league what we a really made of!...COYRs
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Not a relegation squad on paper, but definitely playing like one (as the league table shows). The big factor in staying up or not is whether the manager can work out how to get results with the squad as he has massively struggled with that so far. He doesn't seem to be able to grasp the "playing as favourites" and we seem to perform much better as the underdog. At Alaves he was always the underdog so we know he can play and get results that way, just doesn't work if the other team are also defensive and happy to play for a point as well.
 
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Saints_Alive said:
Funnily enough, I thought that I would be a lot more frustrated than I am feeling.
I've sort of accepted it and now and just want to see the club crack on with the task at hand. We do not have a relegation squad, I truly believe that and it is time for us to start proving it on the pitch. There are signs that the fans are up for the battle in recent home games, let's make SMS a cauldron.

Come on all Saints let's show the rest of the league what we a really made of!...COYRs
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I agree but if (still if at this point) no one else comes in its yet another poor window where we haven't fully addressed our needs.

It's a good point about the squad but I believe we have the worst manager in the league.
 
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