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Discussion in 'The Premier League' started by PleaseNotPoll, Aug 29, 2018.

  1. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Same stance, club ain’t telling us ****.

    Some rumours saying Jan/ Feb, others saying Nov/ Dec. Our home ties against PSV and Inter in the CL are still TBD with regards to where they’ll actually be played.
     
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  2. Blueman

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    Loftus Road is tiny but I used to like going there. I remember QPR upping the price of their programmes to match our programme prices as the majority of the crowd would be Chelsea fans. That was actually in the programme notes. True story.
     
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  3. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

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    Not sure of the exact amount but it’s practically the whole lower section of the single tier south stand. The away fans will also have it.
     
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  4. Star of David Bardsley

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    I’ll only believe this if @cfcffp confirms.
     
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  5. brb

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    These two comments are spot on and for much the reasons i've already given in this thread.

    In an ideal situation, seating is the safest option, because it prevents crowd surges. However, that is in the the ideal situation, in a tragedy, which is a few and far between life circumstance then seating becomes as much of a problem as standing.

    I've already highlighted a few points previously, EXITS, ISLES/GANGWAYS, POLICING/STEWARDING. Quite a number of tragedies throughout the world putting aside the UK was caused by the latter. It may have initially started with the supporters but the reactions of police cause panic. At Hillsborough the problem was pens, if the pens never existed fans could have spilled on to the pitch.

    Football grounds do not and probably would be difficult to have large enough exits and gangways to accommodate a sudden mad rush as in a panic situation. This will be recognised, IF a UK football ground is ever hit with a terrorist attack.

    With seating a majority of people, women, frail or unfit people, young children, will not be able to get over the seats, they will only be able to exit at either end of an aisle. A lot of our stadiums are high, which in a panic situation would cause falling/tumbling and the subsequent affect of that goes without explaining, especially if people start going over the top of seats, which they will do if they need to get out.

    Seating was introduced to control numbers, the same as safe standing will. Seating will never prevent a tragedy, but it may well prevent someones escape in an emergency situation. You could argue, if supporters can only exit via aisles it controls the numbers into the gangways and stairwells, yes but it also leaves the less able behind!

    In the last few seasons there was an incident at a Prem ground, where the turnstiles were not open and people were being herded into an already congested street, they got away with it that time, but it's a warning, it's a warning that the lessons from Hillsborough and the Taylor report have not been learned.
     
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  6. Blueman

    Blueman Well-Known Member

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    Oh it's true mate, 1987 I think. I've got the programme still, I think.
     
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  7. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Exactly the earlier points i was trying to make. Again all though unofficial at this stage, the police are getting the blame, albeit without the official version there may have been genuine reason for the other access closures. Some newer out of town builds now, no longer have the dividing walls, these enable supporters to disperse with ease in the event of problems.
     
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  9. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  10. Libby

    Libby Derby County, we're coming for you

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    Not sure... maybe because of the dramatically reduced away allocation?

    Doesn't seem to have been communicated properly either which is a big issue.
     
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