Transfer Rumours Safc beat off 10 premier league rivals to secure the leagues 8th all time highest scorer for Jozy

I will. Then get some more.

 

Interesting take on Defoe signing, what do you guys think.......
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sp...Sunderland_s_lack_of_a_long_term_plan/?ref=mr

 

I think it's absolutely laughable, how could anyone take the bloke seriously

Every club reacts to injuries, suspensions, form by taking decisive steps ..... Just as Wenger has indicated at Arsenal.
Just as Man City's signing of Boney has demonstrated.

Any quality player, within your budget, who becomes available should alert the club to a possible deal.
The club have been looking for an extra striker, waited until the window and signed a player ..... absolutely shocking behaviour.

Sunderland do have a long term strategy but bringing in a guaranteed PL scorer and shipping out a proven failure is good business, no matter how some snide journalist tries to spin it ....... what a joke of an article

He obviously so predictably refers to Newcastle 'doing things the right way' and having a long term strategy. He then explains that this 'strategy' is to deliberately achieve NOTHING while flogging the best players. FFS, what a bitter & twisted little knacker ........

"You can say what you like about Mike Ashley at Newcastle United – and plenty do – but at least the unpopular owner has developed a clearly-defined strategy for how his club is going to operate and is open about his desire to achieve financial self-sufficiency. That doesn’t mean Newcastle are going to achieve anything significant during his tenure – in fact, it can be argued that Ashley’s philosophy actively mitigates against the possibility of the Magpies winning something – but having formulated a clear plan, the sportswear magnate is clearly going to stick to it."

 

Deliberately missed the point imo. This was never intended as long term. We need the fix now.

When talking wages he manages to conveniently forget the savings on Jozy going the other way.

Completely biased. I suspect the article would have been totally different had Defoe gone to NUFC.

 

When talking wages ...... he lies through his teeth.

The wages are the absolute maximum if he helps us win the FA Cup, qualify for Europe and finish in the top 8.
No doubt we'd all be gutted if we had to pay him top whack

 

Wouldn`t we though. Really upset.

 

I detected a hint of bias in that article. ManU failed to qualify for Europe and produce 150m to spend with a further 150m this summer. About as short term as us then.
Comparing our approach to Ashley's does not stand comparison as they are now a nurture then sell club.

 

Is this knacker an actual sports journalist or just someone from the tea room filling in?

"Then, of course, there is the decision to throw millions at Defoe, a player whose age means he will have no resale value once his contract expires. If you can ascertain an overarching plan from all of that, you’re doing better than me."

If you can ascertain the resale value of an 'out of contract 26 year old' you’re doing better than me

 

I think the muppet has forgotten a very important point, we didn't buy Defoe, we swapped him for a cart horse. Resale doesn't even come into it, you can only recoup a players fee if you actually bought him in the first place.

 

United States international Jozy Altidore moved to Toronto FC as part of the deal that took striker Jermain Defoe to Sunderland. "So excited to be joining @torontofc !!Thanks to all the fans and people of Toronto for the warm welcome!" he tweeted.

Aye Jozy, hope you improve mate or I hope they have as much patience as us.

 

I think we'd all braced ourselves for Altidore leaving for free, if we sold Defoe this week he'd fetch 3/4 million.
To get that kind of money for Altidore is truly amazing tbh.

It's glaringly obvious that this Mag hack has forgotten the 'millions thrown at' the likes of Riviere, Cabella, etc.
This dogshite about buying an endless stream of 'unknown French gems' is becoming more ludicrous Geordie folklore.
This clown can't hide his seething bias but admits that Newcastle are nothing more than a handy business for Ashley.

Because of his B&W blinkers he also misses the point that we've deprived one of our 'relegation rival' from signing a very good player ....... if QPR, Hull, Palace, West Brom, Villa, etc had signed Defoe this board would be covered in these

 

Which is exactly why he is prepared to risk the rest of the season with Carver in charge. He'll probably keep them up, but won't be demanding millions to spend in January, won't upset the Ashley apple cart.

He's talking utter **** claiming Ashley has a business model, of course he does, they all do apart from the Arabs of course. To them the club is a toy, to the likes of Ellis it's a business and from what I can see that's exactly how he's approaching it.

I can't open the link cos I'm on a very dodgy connection but I'm guessing the rest of his article is just as ridiculous?

 

Treat yersel mate, it's fkn hilarious

by Scott Wilson

"ON the face of it, Sunderland’s capture of Jermain Defoe, with Jozy Altidore heading back to the MLS in the opposite direction, represents a wonderful piece of business.

Not only have the Black Cats rid themselves of a player who had become a figure of fun, such was the extent of his struggles as he scored one goal in 42 top-flight appearances for the club, they have also recruited a replacement who stands 14th in the all-time list of Premier League goalscorers.

Given that only Aston Villa have scored fewer Premier League goals than Sunderland this season, it was always going to be imperative that a proven centre-forward was recruited to help stave off the very real threat of relegation.

For all that he is now 32, with his international days for England behind him, Defoe’s goalscoring pedigree is impeccable. Valid questions can be raised about whether Sunderland’s midfielders will create sufficient opportunities for him to be seen at anywhere near his best – after all, it’s not as though Steven Fletcher or Connor Wickham have been missing a host of chances this season – but provided he retains even a semblance of his former sharpness in and around the penalty area, Defoe could well prove the difference between Sunderland retaining their top-flight status or slipping into the Championship.

If that is the case, Ellis Short and Lee Congerton can rightly feel content with the concerted courting that has resulted in Defoe shunning at least seven other Premier League clubs in order to move to the North-East.

Ultimately, though, this week’s developments say much about the position Sunderland find themselves in at the halfway stage of their eighth consecutive season in the top-flight, and it is not a particularly positive message.

Whatever way it is dressed up, the decision to spend around £70,000-a-week on a thirty-something, a commitment that stretches to more than £12m over the course of an anticipated three-and-a-half year contract, smacks of desperation rather than any long-term plan.

Would Sunderland have been throwing such vast sums at Defoe had not they not found themselves embroiled in yet another relegation battle? It’s extremely unlikely. Would they have had to resort to such a panicked measure if their long-term strategy had been more successful? Again, the answer has to be no.

It is now more than six years since Short assumed full control of Sunderland, and yet it is still pretty much impossible to outline what his vision is for the club, or how he intends to set about realising it.

Ask what kind of club he presides over, and the answer will probably be determined by an assessment of what has gone wrong in the previous six months. As the Defoe signing proves, Sunderland’s major decisions tend to be reactive rather than an attempt to dictate what is to come.

You can say what you like about Mike Ashley at Newcastle United – and plenty do – but at least the unpopular owner has developed a clearly-defined strategy for how his club is going to operate and is open about his desire to achieve financial self-sufficiency. That doesn’t mean Newcastle are going to achieve anything significant during his tenure – in fact, it can be argued that Ashley’s philosophy actively mitigates against the possibility of the Magpies winning something – but having formulated a clear plan, the sportswear magnate is clearly going to stick to it.

What is Short’s plan for Sunderland? Under Steve Bruce, it appeared to be to wheel and deal in order to improve the Black Cats squad. When Martin O’Neill arrived, the talk was all about quality rather than quantity and the targeted acquisition of a handful of big names.

The chaos of the Roberto De Fanti era represented a radical change of tack, with control over transfer matters ceded to the Italian director of football as attention was switched to the continent in order to pick up low-cost players who could be improved.

Now, while Congerton has effectively replaced De Fanti in a new sporting director role, Sunderland appear to have adopted a scattergun approach whereby the likes of Liam Bridcutt and Will Buckley arrive from the Championship, Santiago Vergini and Ignacio Scocco are recruited from South America and Jack Rodwell comes in for big money from Manchester City.

Then, of course, there is the decision to throw millions at Defoe, a player whose age means he will have no resale value once his contract expires. If you can ascertain an overarching plan from all of that, you’re doing better than me.

There’s nothing intrinsically wrong with signing a former star in the twilight of their career, although the last time that happened in the North-East, Newcastle United found themselves saddled with Michael Owen at a time when the former England international was more interested in horseracing than heading home winners.

Defoe’s determination to have one last hurrah after a troubled spell in Canada suggests his focus and commitment will be at a much higher level than Owen’s ever were, but while his goals will surely help Sunderland’s survival effort in the final four months of the season, it’s hard to see how his arrival will be of benefit in the long term.

Once his talents begin to wane, he will have to be replaced just as Altidore has been, and if Short is going to limit himself to one or two major signings in each transfer window, Sunderland will quickly find themselves in an expensive cycle of declining assets if they continue to sign 32-year-olds on three-and-a-half year deals.

Perhaps Short has looked at the financial implication of relegation and concluded that a short-term fix is required no matter what the price. Given that it is his money propping the club up, he deserves credit for funding this week’s deal when he could easily have told Gus Poyet to make the most of his current squad and kept his fingers crossed for a repeat of last season’s ‘Great Escape’.

Ultimately, though, such a hand-to-mouth existence looks certain to come unstuck. Sadly, if you spend your time constantly looking to put out fires, eventually you’re going to get burned."

 

Short and other senior management have consistently stated that making the club financially stable and abiding by the fair play rules is vital to the long term security of the club. Yet Ashley is the one with the "clearly defined strategy".

There are so many flaws in the piece I'm actually quite shocked it was accepted by senior editors. A sad indictment on local sports journalism.

 

Cheers Smug, didn't realise how much of a biased muppet he really is. He was doing OK up till paragraph 7 then he just showed his true colours and rapidly went down hill.

He tries to hide behind the few lines about Owen who at the time was reportedly on £120k a week and barely even pulled the shirt on, never mind performing. Not to mention fat Mike's strategy to buy promising you French talent, grooming them and flogging on for profit with total disregard for the manager trying to build a team.

Typical Geordie ****, do your ****ing homework or stick to writing about Newcastle.

 

dear Mr Wilson

using nice words doesn't make for an intelligent, rounded article. nor does it disguise your obvious bias or jealousy over our very smart deal.

an expensive cycle of declining assets!
a) he does now know what the base salary/bonus structure is, and
b) when was the last time we signed a 32 year old?

suggesing this is a continuing policy is just pathetic. esp from a mag where the policy is to 'milk the club for all its worth'.

 

Every business plan worth it's salt has short, medium and long term objectives. What would be the point of making long term objectives if your short and medium fail.

Mr Short has reduced our wage bill from approx. £70m to £52m per annum and can now budget to bring in quality rather than quantity, which hopefully will allow us to meet our short and medium objectives.

 

Hardly unexpected though BM.

Failure to mention we got him for nothing.
He`s so rubbish 6 other Prem clubs wanted him.
Failure to mention that if he score 6 goals over the length of his contract it`s still a better return than Jozy.

If he`d gone to Sid James the same bloke would have been full of it, shouting about what a brilliant coup it was.

I won`t be losing any sleep over this Lee Ryder clone.

 

You seem to have mixed your words up, I've tidied them up for you

 

It's blatantly obvious that he's a skunk and loaded with Jealousy, the article boils my piss a bit tbh but like you, I won't lose any sleep. The article is so full of inaccuracies it's not worth getting upset over.

The bar is open in 35 minutes anyway, I think I might just be able to put all this out of my head and get merrily blooted this afternoon