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Transfer Rumours Safc beat off 10 premier league rivals to secure the leagues 8th all time highest scorer for Jozy

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  1. JustMeMan

    JustMeMan Well-Known Member

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    You need sleep dreaming of crap like that.
     
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  2. mackemwelder

    mackemwelder Well-Known Member

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    We need a player who can make things happen, not sure who that is mind but we need one. Alvarez could be the answer if he got game time, I like the way he's very economical with his passing and very accurate as well. With Defoe making the runs, maybe Alvarez could be the man to pick him out?
     
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  3. grandpops

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    Possibly.

    We need someone particularly effective in or around the edge of the penalty area who can pick the killer ball into the box. A lot of our attacks seem to come to a halt there.
     
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  4. JustMeMan

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    You are easy pleased, aye good goal scorer ****ing 5 year ago...
     
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  5. mackemwelder

    mackemwelder Well-Known Member

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    This looks promising, from SPN

    ALTIDORE HEADS ACROSS THE POND
    Sunderland
    striker Jozy Altidore was on his way to Toronto on Thursday morning as he and Jermain Defoe prepared to trade places.
    The 25-year-old United States international was booked on a flight to Canada after travelling down to London from the north-east on Wednesday evening with Defoe, 32, having headed in the opposite direction.
     
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  6. JustMeMan

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    Well that's the good thing in this deal dozy goes thank ****.
     
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  7. mackemwelder

    mackemwelder Well-Known Member

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    IMO we get rid of a player who couldn't hit the net from 1/2 a yard and replaced him with a proven striker who can.
     
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  8. grandpops

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    From the Independant

    Few forces are quite as effective in parting Premier League teams with their money than fear of the drop.

    Sunderland are just one point ahead of the relegation zone. They have scored the second fewest goals in the league this season. The chance to sign Jermain Defoe – 124 Premier League goals to his name – is obviously attractive. If he can replicate his goalscoring form for just the next four months then he will more than earn in television rights whatever he costs in wages.

    This logic, though, presumes that Defoe will be able to do for Sunderland what he did, over the years, for West Ham United and Tottenham Hotspur. And the chances of that, without a drastic change on Wearside, are remote.

    Defoe’s best years at Tottenham – who host Sunderland on Saturday – whether under Martin Jol or Harry Redknapp, saw him playing up front in an attacking side using a 4-4-2 system.

    He was lucky enough to play with strike partners like Robbie Keane, Dimitar Berbatov and Peter Crouch, who brought the best out of him. He received brisk, intelligent service from Michael Carrick, Aaron Lennon, Luka Modric and Gareth Bale.

    If Gus Poyet thinks that his Sunderland side can provide Defoe with anything like the same platform to score goals then he is guilty of wishful thinking in the extreme. Sunderland, this season, have not been missing chances but rather failing to create them. Poyet has been struggling to balance attack and defence all season and his team have almost ground to a halt over recent weeks, with six goals in their last 10 league games.

    Sunderland play in a 4-1-4-1 system which has at least prevented a repeat of their 8-0 defeat at Southampton in October. But it is a set-up devoid of everything that Defoe needs to be successful. If he plays up front on his own he will be isolated and ineffective. If he is partnered by Steven Fletcher or Connor Wickham, it may leave the team too exposed elsewhere.

    This is the eternal dilemma for teams fighting to stay up. Queen’s Park Rangers have a poacher of their own, in Charlie Austin, and Redknapp, the QPR manager, recognises that he needs Bobby Zamora alongside him to maximise his potency. This is why he persists with 4-4-2, despite the clear limitations.

    Defoe clearly has his heart set on a return to the Premier League after one season at Toronto. That is why Toronto president Tim Leiweke told him to “get the hell out of the way” if he did not want to stay there. Redknapp tried to sign Defoe in August and, had Austin not performed so well, he would likely have tried again this month. While Defoe’s final months at Tottenham before he left last February suggest that he is not quite the player he once was, starring in the Europa League and Capital One Cup rather than in the Premier League, he still has something to offer. He has an exceptional nose for goal and that is not something that fades at 32.

    But if Sunderland can only afford one big gamble this month, it is not obvious that Defoe is the right one.
     
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  9. JustMeMan

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    Defoe didn't want nowt to do with us when he was scoring goals. Hope he can continue but I'm not to certain he can. And is not 1 for the future.
     
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    I said earlier there`s going to be doubts until we see what he`s got left but if Jozys going the other way in a straight swap we`re virtually getting him for nothing and he can`t be worse.
     
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  11. mackemwelder

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    That's if you believe what the papers print.

    I'm not a fan of him as a bloke tbh, not even sure why, he just strikes me as a little ****. And I probably read the same reports in the press as you did, but from memory none of it actually came from Defoe, rather just stories made up to sell papers. That said, who would want to leave a fairly successful team to go to a struggling one and probably for less money?

    If Jermain Defoe pulls on the Red & White shirt, he has a clean slate from me and my full backing. And I'm looking forward to seeing it as well.
     
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  12. JustMeMan

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    There's only a few strikers worse then jozy in the premier and we have 2 of them <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  13. JustMeMan

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    He will get my full backing mate, players like Defoe are great to bring the young players on but gus is just not intrested in them.
     
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  14. Smug in Boots

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    Isn't he playing Wickham, Bridcutt & Buckley?
     
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    Mandron looks like he`s nearly there.

    Gus did say the whole thing was ****e and he has changed the set up.
     
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  16. JustMeMan

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    Spot on, stick to signing old well known players gus.
     
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  17. mackemwelder

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    It's two of our oldest players that have gotten us results so far this season, O'Shea and Brown.
     
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  18. JustMeMan

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    Brown needs replacing canny at scoring in his own goal like. O'shea I agree is our best defender.
     
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  19. The Little General

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    Lets hope he isn't a Louis Saha or Andy Cole, neither set the place on fire up here. It's a bit of a gamble, hope it pays off.
     
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    All transfers are a gamble, if we land Defoe it will test the managers ability to accomodate him into our "system", and this is the rub, if he is played wide he will be a waste of money, up front on his own likewise. My fear is the danger that he will become an impact sub at best under Gus. The bright side is Defoe in Jozy out makes the squad stronger however he is used. The one loan signing we still have could well be decisive, interesting times ahead.
     
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