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S.A.F.C. - the future

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by alan reed, Jul 24, 2020.

  1. Fear Inoculum

    Fear Inoculum Active Member

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    Not surprising really, considering what it was costing him. However, my sympathy wears thin in that it was lunatics running the asylum. His own making. He needed a DOF that wasn't a mate's son to make decisions. However, easy for me to type with hindsight. This is an aside, but we had a glimpse of a really good top flight side.
     
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  2. TopCat.

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    Simple as that.

    People can argue until they are blue in the face about what Short did, and what intentions they had. The facts are simple:

    They bought the club with it's own money
    They gambled on promotion in the 1st season and didn't care who they were going to sell to after 12 months. They were going to take their money and disappear
    They spent all the remaining money on Will Grigg, which hamstrung us with a sub-standard squad for 2 years
    They sold off the family silver (Stephenson, Mumba, Greenwood, Pye, Hugill) to pay the bills
     
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  3. Prehab26

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    Yeah. There are a load of examples and details that I could add to this but I won't.

    They are scumbags and won't be missed. They have no idea what football is for us safc fans, they abused and took it for granted. Not welcome back, they will be into another small club soon, selling anything that moves, cutting costs looking for the quick flip. Rinse and repeat.
     
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  4. Oliver's Army

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    I've just watched STID, more or less back to back after the Wembley win. Donald is absolutely ****ting himself at running us properly and having to put his own cash in. They didn't have a pot to piss in and they knew it. Charlatans and chancers. That Grigg transfer window is there for all to see, ****ing minging as Sacko would say.
     
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  5. TopCat.

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    The irony is - win that game v Charlton, he sells up and is probably seen as a hero.............well, not a hero but less of a chancer
     
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  6. Young Ted

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    M8 they sold years worth of up and coming players to the highest bidder
     
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  7. Burrywurr

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    I always got the impression Donald saw us as an opportunity to recoup the money (£10m i think) he said he’d invested in Eastleigh, and he saw SAFC as his chance to cover that loss, which fell away when we didn’t get promoted at the first attempt and led to scrutiny of the accounts under his watch from the following season onwards.
     
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  8. Pure River Slut

    Pure River Slut Well-Known Member

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    His behaviour was inexcusable from Moyes onwards other than that disgraceful time i generally agree. He blamed too
    Many but himself throughout though.
     
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  9. Wayne the Punk

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    Any news on the takeover?
     
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  10. APC

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    I’ve always said aye short put money in and was genuine but in the end he left us to rot
     
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  11. young2077

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    It's still the thing that riles me the most, they sold soany young players. Most of which had a chance of playing a part in the league we were in. More chance of young players getting a shot at league 1 level.
     
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  12. LD19SAFC

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    FTM? **** the Methven.
     
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  13. LD19SAFC

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    Liar. Bob defending the 2 Oxford scumbags FFS
     
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  14. John Wick

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    Madrox
     
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  15. C Montgomery Burns

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    My mate says it was 2013 when it started to go massively wrong for Short. That was because by then we'd lost people from the club who understood both the club, the area and the game, and their replacements talked a good game but ****ed up left right and centre.

    Maggie Byrne replacing Steve Walton as CEO when he retired, then creating the culture in the club that she did. Replacing Lesley Callaghan with Gary the Hair as commercial director... That alone should say it all!

    It takes years to build something up, but only takes seconds to destroy it. From the way Di Canio was appointed and the fall out from that, everything seemed reactive, knee jerk decisions for a quick fix while we hemorrhaged cash. Short, to me, takes blame, but he was badly let down by people he trusted who, if some of the things I've heard are right, were only really looking out for themselves and for what they could get out of it. I can't say much of what I heard, because it could be considered libelous, but when some one can charge the club to have their wedding dress sent to Portugal for their wedding, I don't think they have the best interests of the club as a top priority.
     
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  16. Arlyman

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    I read on this board (or maybe RTG as I used it then) that Donald actually said that at an SOL talk-in. Can anyone who was there corroborate that?
     
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  17. Jsdftm04

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    He said it on the Roker Report podcast early doors, 100%.

    It was something like, "if I can recoup the £10m I spent at Eastleigh then great."
     
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  18. LD19SAFC

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    Which one? There was that many… RR well and truly had their tongues up his arse. Embarrassing.
     
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  19. Arlyman

    Arlyman Well-Known Member

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    Are they leaving with a 'clean slate'? Any money used to leverage purchase paid back as promised so the club can use it, even though no legal requirement to do so?
     
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  20. LD19SAFC

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    Next joke? <laugh>
     
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