I wonder who Kyril's advisors are, football or money people, probably both. He will have great connections from his OM days and I've read before was very close to a number of players. This is the most excited and optimistic I have been for years. Very good to read about Kyril watching his phone for days up until the deal was sorted which shows he is massively invested in us and isn't just a hobby which he is going to play at.
Dave Rose is one of the committee members of RAWA and is deputy CEO of the FSA so yeah there's quite a big tie in and he'll be well aware of the discussions around getting fans back in at the FSA level. RAWA have also been having quite regular meetings with the safety officer at safc about the eventual return of fans, just basically making sure that the club were aware of issues the fans might have and trying to make sure we can safely get as many back as possible. Fingers crossed we get the chance to get back soon mind , this Christmas has felt strange without it!
I still think we'll do this in my lifetime (I'm nearly 53). You just never know in football, some might say it's impossible but the impossible happens to this club. If someone 4 years ago told us that we'd be marooned in Division 3 for a number of years in a pandemic not seen by the World in 100 years. Not many would have believed it. Once this club gets on a roll, with the reasonable and sensible financial backing of competent owners with deep pockets when the time is right to do so, this club will go a long way. With the long term vision set by the proposed new owners, the setup they have already partially set up, plus the proposed networks and with top analytical systems in place within 5 to 10 years I'm hoping we're hearing all the top pundits saying Sunderland is the model professional setup how to run a modern progressive Football club in the Premier League and ultimately in Europe as well. Do things right and good times will happen as if by magic.
Fans groups are great I’ve been member and ran them Enjoy the charity events social nights and away days I was even at the centenary big bash at the Mecca However having said that Let the manager pick the team Let the owners run the team That side has nowt to do with the supporters
You've both hit the nail on the head. Fans groups shouting now about what they want to see happen is very v,ery risky. We've already started to get a reputation as a fickle bunch from outsiders, when you look at how often we've changed managers. It plays into the hands of the shysters who can argue that fans turned on them too quickly, despite genuine reasons in most cases. Most fans just want to support the team and will back the managers and owners to do the right things to make us successful. Fans groups, podcasts and fanzines don't represent every fan, we've all got different views and opinions, but if they keep shouting loud enough, theirs can become the "official" fan position. And the risk is they get high jacked by people pushing what they want, rather than what's needed and people with different views shut out. Just look at the laughing stock the Mags are with the shop shouting and mock funerals. I know enough decent mags that cringe every time Steve Wraith get his face on TV as an "official" fan spokesman. We certainly don't want the same to happen to us. Let's just try and give him a chance, we've a helluva lot of crap to clear up and it's going to take some time to do that.
You've both hit the nail on the head. Fans groups shouting now about what they want to see happen is very v,ery risky. We've already started to get a reputation as a fickle bunch from outsiders much the same
You can spot them a mile off mate I get as pissed off as the next man with the running of the club and have an occasional rant. But as soon as I read the match thread or someone starts talking about some obscure away game then you realise why we support the lads. These people seem to have no opinions about the actual football no stories nothing anyway ignore them back to the takeover. One thing that was missing from the statement was where Sartori fits in I had half expected him to come in partnership with KFD
You talk a lot of sense, as always, but I honestly think we should let the lad get through the door first. As an opening statement saying, "RAWA have made it quite clear supporters will want to see evidence of an assured plan of long-term progression", sends out the wrong message imo, made it clear to who? Are RAWA claiming to have spoken to the new owner? After months of relentless tension and negativity I believe we should have a period of joy and hope before the demands begin. In reality 'an assured plan of long-term progression' means nothing and, imo, is just setting more of the kind of deadlines we grew sick of with Donald. Let's not allow his duplicity taint the new people before they've been given a chance. There are times when we just have to trust the owners, get behind them and hope for the best ... ... let's not back them into a corner at this stage.
I'd have opened with we warmly welcome KLD as our new majority shareholder and look forward to engaging with him at the earliest opportunity to align our vision for the club.....blah blah....
I appreciate RAWA are going down the 'once bitten, twice shy' route but we have to wipe the slate clean in my honest opinion. I'm so tired of negativity tbh, let's just go daft like we did in the good old days.
Totally agree, clean slate. It's like getting a new boss and storming in to their office on day one, stamping your feet and kicking off about why your old boss was rubbish. Hardly going to come off well.
Yes. But when in the EU we had absolutely no say at all in the inflow of people from the EU. This was not a matter for debate. Immigration has always been a part of this and most other countries' make up. But when a country loses it's control over so much of the matter, as it did here concerning the theoretical potential for almost 400m people to legally arrive on any given day, then you clearly, as a country do not have control at all. And in order to try and manage numbers, you then refuse entry to say, an Indian doctor in preference to an unskilled, not well educated, inexperienced man with a dependant family from a poorer EU country , the matter was obviously thrown into sharp relief, although pity the politician who articulated this clear truth. These choices were obviously never consciously or directly made, but they were the inevitable effect of EU membership.
Can't disagree at all. I'm assuming (haven't seen it so don't know) that any correspondence to KLD will sound a lot more welcoming and less forthright than that. I'm assuming it's just worded like that to prevent criticism from some fans who might suggest the group are being too trusting, are already in need with the new owner etc. Like I sa , everyone is delighted he's coming in and he'll absolutely get trust and support from the group unless there's any clear reason not to (which at present there certainly isn't!). He seems like a very safe, capable pair of hands, certainly I'd be letting him crack on and I'm sure that's the same for everyone else!
When Tony Blair signed us up to the Social Chapter in 1996 it created free movement for European citizens within the European Union.
