Ryan Giggs

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Narrow minded cock-end

In my eyes a **** is a **** and John Terry is a grade A ****.

Same with Gerrard, a genuine **** who for whatever reason was very lucky not to have a criminal record for his violent behaviour in a Southport Nightclub. The sort of guy who chills with gangsters aswell is our Ste.

Terry does many things that are highly offensive, the racism probably isnt anywhere near the worst.
 
Narrow minded cock-end

In my eyes a **** is a **** and John Terry is a grade A ****.

Same with Gerrard, a genuine **** who for whatever reason was very lucky not to have a criminal record for his violent behaviour in a Southport Nightclub. The sort of guy who chills with gangsters aswell is our Ste.

Terry does many things that are highly offensive, the racism isnt anywhere near the worst.

Care to dig any deeper?
 
<laugh>

I never said you did Ra.

It was your point that even if someone makes a 'racist' remark it doesn't make them a racist.

Suarez has been branded a racist since his FA hearing,JT has other options than those Suarez had if found guilty,JT if found guilty could pay his fine and retire from the game and dodge any punishment the FA would hit him with after a guilty verdict.
If JT is found innocent in a court of law the FA(even with video evidence)cant touch him yet they hung Suarez out to dry with only Evra's word against his.

I Know. I was teasing.
 
The sort of guy who chills with gangsters aswell is our Ste.

<laugh>

Remember the TV documentary in which Bryan Robson got caught using his influence as an employee of Man Utd doing shady business deals in a building owned by Man Utd in partnership with an Asian gangster?

They're proper gangsters in the far east,ask Robbo.<whistle>
 
I'm guessing you have no mirrors in your house.

Hmm..

Never been charged with using racist language because I have never done it.
Never been charged with assault though probably because I have never done it.
Never ****ed my friends or family over by sleeping with their wife or girlfriend
Never mocked victims of terrorism.

Suppose I could be a **** for calling a **** a **** based on those above though.
 
I'm guessing you have no mirrors in your house.

Hmm..

Never been charged with using racist language because I have never done it.
Never been charged with assault though probably because I have never done it.
Never ****ed my friends or family over by sleeping with their wife or girlfriend
Never mocked victims of terrorism.

Suppose I could be a **** for calling a **** a **** based on those above though.

JT has allegedly done one of the above things and it's pretty common in society today.

No one has actually said JT isn't a knob, the point is Giggs is one of equal measure. Unless of course JT is found guilty of racism.
 
So you also fell for the trap of properganda? Read what I wrote on another page on this thread.
Plus it's a strong thing to say it's more offensive than racism.

I added probably as I forgot the first time round but its a close one.

Due to the timing though it is worse in my opinion. Didnt know it had been discussed already though.
 
I added probably as I forgot the first time round but its a close one.

Due to the timing though it is worse in my opinion. Didnt know it had been discussed already though.

Well they weren't mocking victims of terrorism, they were pissed and joking with each other about **** all. It was insensitive at most but as per usual some ****pot from the Daily Mail or another ****e paper blew it all out of proportion and said they were basically mocking the dead.
 
JT has allegedly done one of the above things and it's pretty common in society today.

No one has actually said JT isn't a knob, the point is Giggs is one of equal measure. Unless of course JT is found guilty of racism.

Actually hes done more than one or at least alleged to of done.

Wayne Bridge was at worst a team mate, at best a mate. His england career was over because of Terry.

Rio Ferdinands is also over because of Terry.

Hes also been charged with affray which is a form of assault. He was cleared though.

Not going to deny Giggs isnt a **** either but his was a one off ( long one off mind ) and most of the things we hear about giggs are good things.
 
Actually hes done more than one or at least alleged to of done.

Wayne Bridge was at worst a team mate, at best a mate. His england career was over because of Terry.

Rio Ferdinands is also over because of Terry.

Hes also been charged with affray which is a form of assault. He was cleared though.

Not going to deny Giggs isnt a **** either but his was a one off ( long one off mind ) and most of the things we hear about giggs are good things.

You've just backed my point up even more...

Oh and really? One off? How's Imogen Thomas doing these days...
 
Actually hes done more than one or at least alleged to of done.

Wayne Bridge was at worst a team mate, at best a mate. His england career was over because of Terry.

Rio Ferdinands is also over because of Terry.

Hes also been charged with affray which is a form of assault. He was cleared though.

Not going to deny Giggs isnt a **** either but his was a one off ( long one off mind ) and most of the things we hear about giggs are good things.

Ferdinands England career is over because (also endorsed by Fergie ) he couldn&#8217;t hack the WC schedule, not because of Terry.

The "Affair" was only ever alleged and in fact two news papers (one if I remember right was the guardian) published some sort of apology. (****ing amazing how that was never reported on TV!)

Bridge.....he was never that good

Really weak argument!!
 
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