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What's snide about that?
It is what happens, it's entirely understandable too
Some people will buy tickets in the PL that won't in the Championship. It's exactly why the club wanted to close Upper West if we stayed down, but not if we go up
You'll know this because you're talking about yourself! F'cked us off last year & renewing now! <laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh><laugh>
 
You.

Then again, it could perhaps I'm 'pointing out' that it surprises me that nobody is doing anything, rather than 'criticising' as you claim.

You do seem to default to 'do nothing' as a form of protest, right up until it's clear something should have been done.

You have no idea what I do. Why would I interfere in something that doesn't involve me?

You've done more than 'point out', but if you want to make it appear otherwise then crack on.
 
Well, some of the options could include the ones you've tried and failed to pull holes in...but you need to make your mind up. I've said little is being done, so it's hard to puzzle out which 'actions' I'm supposed to be criticising, whI haven't 'criticised' anything.

You seem to get scared whenever discussions talk of solutions, and try to send the discussion everywhere but straight.

Anyway, I'm running out of time to watch this paint dry, it'll be time to watch the grass grow soon. If I cut it, I'll give you the hay to help your strawman building hobby.

Ah, you're back to your avoidance banter, same **** you use with everyone. Seriously, stop whinging, it's boring.
 
1. I haven't made any point about people moving seats ever. My point has only been about those who have had to move because they're not allowed to re buy their seat

You pulled OLM up that he confused evictions with other movement - I simply called that other movement migration, for clarity.

2. What info? Unless they have sold the seats of the people evicted, which I'm assuming they haven't, then if they gave up on the plans they could just offer them back

You admit to making assumptions, which is why I say await more info.

3. I agree with him on lots of things, but I don't think I have criticised them at all. This debate started when I tried to separate the drive to move the away fans from the scheme itself.

It's okay, he denies it himself now.

4. We just have different opinions on it then. I think the relationship issue is understated. I mentioned money because you said you were happy to move to save money

I just don't see or hear a big reaction to it, I accept it is there, but I believe it is overstated. The odd thing is that when folk normally post on here about the folk around them it is normally to criticise them.

I have never said I would be happy to save money, I have said others are.

5. True

Agreed

6. I'll ignore the last part of this and assume you weren't being snide either!
I don't think the current owners will listen at all
My point earlier today was that I was asking questions as to whether there was a separate campaign regarding the forced evictions due to the away fan move or not. Because they might introduce concessions if they had to, but that wouldn't help those moved forcibly. I do think that if we got new owners they could be very quickly convinced to leave the away fans where they are now if there was strong enough feeling, but I don't know if that's what other fans want, neither do supporters groups so they couldn't campaign for that

The owners listen, but they react as only they can.

Do you believe something worthy could have been achieved in the time available from the volunteers concerned? Do you think the result would have been credible. representative and a good use of resources?

Do you not think you were, or could be thought to be, criticising others for not doing what you are saying should or could have been done?

I wasn't being snide, I was being descriptive - although it would appear there has been no criticism at all, which I think folk will find a tad strange.
 
1. I haven't made any point about people moving seats ever. My point has only been about those who have had to move because they're not allowed to re buy their seat

You pulled OLM up that he confused evictions with other movement - I simply called that other movement migration, for clarity.

2. What info? Unless they have sold the seats of the people evicted, which I'm assuming they haven't, then if they gave up on the plans they could just offer them back

You admit to making assumptions, which is why I say await more info.

3. I agree with him on lots of things, but I don't think I have criticised them at all. This debate started when I tried to separate the drive to move the away fans from the scheme itself.

It's okay, he denies it himself now.

4. We just have different opinions on it then. I think the relationship issue is understated. I mentioned money because you said you were happy to move to save money

I just don't see or hear a big reaction to it, I accept it is there, but I believe it is overstated. The odd thing is that when folk normally post on here about the folk around them it is normally to criticise them.

I have never said I would be happy to save money, I have said others are.

5. True

Agreed

6. I'll ignore the last part of this and assume you weren't being snide either!
I don't think the current owners will listen at all
My point earlier today was that I was asking questions as to whether there was a separate campaign regarding the forced evictions due to the away fan move or not. Because they might introduce concessions if they had to, but that wouldn't help those moved forcibly. I do think that if we got new owners they could be very quickly convinced to leave the away fans where they are now if there was strong enough feeling, but I don't know if that's what other fans want, neither do supporters groups so they couldn't campaign for that

The owners listen, but they react as only they can.

Do you believe something worthy could have been achieved in the time available from the volunteers concerned? Do you think the result would have been credible. representative and a good use of resources?

Do you not think you were, or could be thought to be, criticising others for not doing what you are saying should or could have been done?

I wasn't being snide, I was being descriptive - although it would appear there has been no criticism at all, which I think folk will find a tad strange.

No.
 
Aaanywaay.

Does anyone on here know any timescales for decisions?

I doubt the PL will refuse us admission, as it creates havoc elsewhere and could reflet badly on all concerned.

I suspect IF they feel it's a breach, they'll threaten to withhold enough money so that it costs more than it's worth.
 
1. I haven't made any point about people moving seats ever. My point has only been about those who have had to move because they're not allowed to re buy their seat

You pulled OLM up that he confused evictions with other movement - I simply called that other movement migration, for clarity.

2. What info? Unless they have sold the seats of the people evicted, which I'm assuming they haven't, then if they gave up on the plans they could just offer them back

You admit to making assumptions, which is why I say await more info.

3. I agree with him on lots of things, but I don't think I have criticised them at all. This debate started when I tried to separate the drive to move the away fans from the scheme itself.

It's okay, he denies it himself now.

4. We just have different opinions on it then. I think the relationship issue is understated. I mentioned money because you said you were happy to move to save money

I just don't see or hear a big reaction to it, I accept it is there, but I believe it is overstated. The odd thing is that when folk normally post on here about the folk around them it is normally to criticise them.

I have never said I would be happy to save money, I have said others are.

5. True

Agreed

6. I'll ignore the last part of this and assume you weren't being snide either!
I don't think the current owners will listen at all
My point earlier today was that I was asking questions as to whether there was a separate campaign regarding the forced evictions due to the away fan move or not. Because they might introduce concessions if they had to, but that wouldn't help those moved forcibly. I do think that if we got new owners they could be very quickly convinced to leave the away fans where they are now if there was strong enough feeling, but I don't know if that's what other fans want, neither do supporters groups so they couldn't campaign for that

The owners listen, but they react as only they can.

Do you believe something worthy could have been achieved in the time available from the volunteers concerned? Do you think the result would have been credible. representative and a good use of resources?

Do you not think you were, or could be thought to be, criticising others for not doing what you are saying should or could have been done?

I wasn't being snide, I was being descriptive - although it would appear there has been no criticism at all, which I think folk will find a tad strange.

I did misread your post when you said many would move for price, I thought you said you would, apologies

We disagree on some things which is fine.
 
Aaanywaay.

Does anyone on here know any timescales for decisions?

I doubt the PL will refuse us admission, as it creates havoc elsewhere and could reflet badly on all concerned.

I suspect IF they feel it's a breach, they'll threaten to withhold enough money so that it costs more than it's worth.

The Premier League AGM was on 2 June 206. Normally its a formality that the promoted clubs are accepted into the league and the relegated clubs hand over their golden share. I've seen nothing to suggest we haven't been formally accepted into the Premier League. I'd have thought if we had been rejected something would have slipped out by now.
 
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The Premier League AGM was on 2 June 206. Normally its a formality that the promoted clubs are accepted into the league and the relegated clubs hand over their golden share. I've seen nothing to suggest we haven't been formally accepted into the Premier League. I'd have thought if we had been rejected something would have slipped out by now.

I'd guess the next thing will be the anouncement of matchday prices.

When I've spoken to the Prem about pricing in the past, it was surprising how little they knew about clubs pricing structures for home supporters. It doesn't seem to be high on their agenda. The issue for them is more related to visiting fans, and we're trying to give them what we're among the most expensive seats in the ground, for less than home fans had been paying.
 
According to some on here we will be refused angry to the league or will have to rip up the whole memberships scheme.

It's pompous to suggest otherwise, apparently.
 
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According to some on here we will be refused angry to the league or will have to rip up the whole memberships scheme.

It's pompous to suggest otherwise, apparently.

I am not aware anyone has said that?
 
You seriously need this explaining?...


My opinion is that if the club accept the very clear rules they are accepting a contract to join the Premier League & as per rule B15.4 they are bound to comply by the rules.

If they don't agree then Newcastle will replace us in the PL & we'll need to reapply to join the Football League. ?


I am not aware anyone has said that?

Get with your own argument! That's a few pages back from the above. Think that's saying we won't be allowed in, or will have to rip up the scheme and start again.
If you aren't aware I'm not sure how you can keep posting blather with any sincerity.