Rubiales

[WorkyTicketFTM]

Had no idea about any of this so just had to Google it to see what was going on. The kiss looks innocent enough on the surface like a I'm chuffed to bits thing but I lean more towards he can't do that stuff watching the video she seems uncomfortable and trying to get away from the hug,


Massive difference that too many people miss when they want to chuck the 'woke' and 'snowflake' label about is consent.

If Scholes hand there was pushing Neville off and he turned round and said I didn't consent to that its sexual assault, guess what! It's sexual assault!

It's a minor sexual assault by a man in a position of authority and his punishment is in line with that!

She didn’t do that though, they were in a long embrace celebrating and he kissed her literally exactly the same way Neville kissed Scholes. I bet if I looked hard enough I’d find plenty of pictures of women kissing each other in sporting triumph too.

Wrong? Probably, yes. Sexual assault? An insult to actual victims of sexual assault.

 

[young2077]

She didn’t do that though, they were in a long embrace celebrating and he kissed her literally exactly the same way Neville kissed Scholes. I bet if I looked hard enough I’d find plenty of pictures of women kissing each other in sporting triumph too.

Wrong? Probably, yes. Sexual assault? An insult to actual victims of sexual assault.

Only thing that potentially stops it is it not being sexual, from what I saw I can see the argument more strongly for it not being sexual but it's one that's difficult to prove either way!

I think it's more to do with his job role and perceived position of power that's landed him in the **** so much. Plus I'm going of UK law definition of sexual assault not Spanish.

 

[rooch 3]

Only thing that potentially stops it is it not being sexual, from what I saw I can see the argument more strongly for it not being sexual but it's one that's difficult to prove either way!

I think it's more to do with his job role and perceived position of power that's landed him in the **** so much. Plus I'm going of UK law definition of sexual assault not Spanish.

Did someone mention he had previous for this?
The version of the kiss I’ve just watched might be different from others but she looked as though she didn’t mind at all and was walking away laughing her head off.

 

[Becs]

The kiss was the straw that broke the camels back. It's not the same as two male footballers kissing each other. There's no power balance there as they are of similar level. In this case, he was her boss which shifts the power balance in his favour. There's also the male/female thing. Women are constantly told to be kind, be nice and all that. This makes it harder for women to fight off unwanted advances.

Rubiales and Vilda had history of controlling behaviour against women which resulted in many of the team previously walking out. The women had to leave their hotel rooms unlocked which meant the men could walk in while they were changing/showering/sleeping. The men went through their luggage including personal items so they had no privacy or dignity.

Rubiales had previously announced he was going to marry Jenni, even though they had never dated or had any kind of romantic relationship.

Before the kiss, he was rubbing his crotch next to the Queen of Spain and her 16 year old daughter. That's not an appropriate thing to do.

After the kiss, they released a press release allegedly from the player saying the kiss was consensual. She was threatened with consequences if she did not comply.

It's not "woke nonsense" to pull men up on such behaviour against women. Women should to be able to do their job safely without having to fend off creepy behaviour from men.