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Discussion in 'Norwich City' started by tipsycanary, Nov 23, 2013.

  1. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    That may be true, and certainly the Newcastle fans are keen to point that out, but, and it is a BIG BUT, when you are actually in the PL, you need to everything you can to stay there as there are no guarantees that you'll come back up in 1, 2, 3 or more seasons. Any fan who wants NCFC to be playing in the top flight (I know some don't, but that another story), should be at least a little concerned that that opportunity could pass the club bye, by accepting what is currently happening on the pitch.

    With the exception of Spurs, Swansea & Arsenal last season, Stoke this season, City have shown very little intention of trying to make a game of it from the 1st minute of the game. Today was a perfect example of that, as they didn;t really start to make a serious impression until the 2nd half, and that was quite late on. Look at the games at Hull, Spurs, Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal this season. Was there at any point during any of those games when you really though there was a chance of getting even 1 point out of them? I would guess the answer is no, and if that is true, you have to ask yourself why that is.
     
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  2. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Like I said, playing devils advocate. However, when the time was nearing for Nigel Worthington all those years ago, I did boo - a lot, although not at the players.

    There were times under Hamilton's reign I could have got very vocal towards Darren Kenton when he was playing as a left back! wtf! but I knew it was not his choice to play in that position, but many fans around me gave him a really bad time over it.

    Some can deal with it in one way, others in another.

    The problem we have now is the money that is in the game, and to lose the cash cow is almost unthinkable.
     
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  3. GozoCanary

    GozoCanary Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's right at all to boo the players, especially people like Russell Martin who has been such a servant to the club.
     
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  4. tipsycanary

    tipsycanary Well-Known Member

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    Is it right to boo the manager?
     
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  5. tipsycanary

    tipsycanary Well-Known Member

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    Well I agree money in the game is a big problem and certainly has huge influence on peoples decisions. Personally I think it makes people panic and think irrationally but there you go. I agree it is a risk to stay with a manager who appears to be struggling but another way to look at it I guess would be: Would you rather take a risk on long term stability with the club gradually improving or risk a quick fix by sacking a manager? Tough call, personally I feel clubs like Norwich must look to the long term.
     
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  6. SUPERNORWICH 23

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    We are not a million miles away from being a good side at the moment but we can`t defend for **** our keeper is very shaky at times and our strikers can`t score other than that Leroy is improving nicely<laugh>
     
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  7. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    I would have to say yes, based on my earlier response <laugh>

    NW had clearly lost the dressing room, it was there for everyone to see. I am not sure the same is going on now, but something doesn't seem quite right and if some fans boo CH, then I cannot an will not criticise them for that action, as I believe they are fully entitled to do so, after shelling out several hundred £££'s for a season ticket. I know you, and some others will not agree with that viewpoint, and that too is okay, each to their own :grin:
     
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  8. GozoCanary

    GozoCanary Well-Known Member

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    I don't think it's helpful.
     
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  9. tipsycanary

    tipsycanary Well-Known Member

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    Thats fair enough but why would you boo a manager and not the players? Both surely have a part to play? I dont think this is quite the same as the NW situation just yet. I agreed with him leaving, he had done well for us but the time was right (maybe slightly late)
     
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  10. ThaiCanary

    ThaiCanary Well-Known Member

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    Hell yes, it's a tough call and comes down to what is a priority for the individual. What do we want?

    PL football for the short term - short term financial benefits, and if lucky come back up and get more dough handed out on a platter.
    PL for the medium -long term, where the club can look after itself for decades, financially
    or indefinite Championship football (ask any ITFC fan about this <laugh>)

    Personally I am torn between the medium to long term, and the Championship. I like the Championship, as it is exiting for fans, but like the idea of the club becoming 'self-sufficient' for the foreseeable future.
     
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  11. ThaiCanary

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    I think this was quite a unique set of circumstances at Carrow Road, at the time. I like NW, I knew him personally and he is a really nice guy, and could talk with him about football for hours on end, but, it was so obvious that he had lost the plot, and some kind of action had to take place. How else does a fan in the stand make his or her feelings known to the board? Write a letter on the Monday morning, or let rip on the Saturday afternoon after a few pints? I think you know the answer <laugh>
     
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  12. tipsycanary

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    haha I do love Championship football (which maybe a good thing) for its competitiveness and the style of the prem has been a bit boring the last couple of years and not just us! I think it is in a stage of transition and will become more exciting again but thats another story. For Norwich in many ways it is more risky to go for a quick fix manager? Could end up very badly indeed. If we were to bring in a manager who was a big improvement on CH I would not complain but we must be careful what we wish for. Equally we could get a manager who takes us in the wrong direction.
     
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    Agree to an extent but fans chanting for him to be sacked during the matches I did not agree with. After the match if you must.
     
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    Just because your fed up to the back teeth with hapless performances week in week out, spending hundreds of pounds and countless hours following a team berift of ideas and leadership on & off the park, doesn't mean your any less of a fan for speaking out against the current fool trying to pass himself off as a PL manager.
    It's time some on here took off there rose tinted glasses and saw the direction we are fast moving in.
    Just because you voice an opinion doesn't mean you are suddenly a bad supporter. Wake up FFS !
     
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  15. tipsycanary

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    Well surely it does as you are not supporting them? You are just slagging them off. I don't think everything is great I'm not stupid (maybe debatable) but equally I can see that some of this behaviour from fans is not helpful.

    I understand you are upset at the performances.
     
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    I am supporting the CLUB by wanting this fool removed from office before he drags us back to the championship, where I don't think we should be ! You might like watching championship footy, but I don't!
    I'm as passionate as any other fan in CR but blind faith is just stupid !
    It's the same in footy as any other walk in life to get change you have to protest, some won't want change others will, in time the majority will rule, it's a fact.
     
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  17. Mexican Canary

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    I must have been watching a different game. We never turned up. This was yet another embarrassing display. Again there was no plan B. ""The manager needs time'' how much time????
     
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  18. tipsycanary

    tipsycanary Well-Known Member

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    I certainly don't have blind faith, I don't think things are going perfectly and I hope they can improve and nor do I want us to be relegated. Not sure that is a "fact" either btw. You may well be passionate, but I believe showing your passion in that way is not very helpful to the club you support. I think we should just agree to disagree on that.
     
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  19. SUPERNORWICH 23

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    We are playing horrible football so our comments reflect this form, we employed someone to buy players and tell them how to play and he is doing a bad job especially away from home.
    Am i missing something why are we not allowed to hold Mr Hughton accountable ?
     
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  20. tipsycanary

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    Didn't say you weren't. The club also employ players to play football many of whom are paid more then the manager why should they not be accountable? DM employed CH should he be accountable? You tell me where it starts and stops? I was merely saying many don't get behind the team or give the manager a chance and are almost happier throwing their toys out the pram and crying about the situation. Everyone seems to think they are entitled to win every game! (clearly an exaggeration but you get the point).
     
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