Off Topic Rotten at the BBC

[kiwiqpr]

Can you do a petition for the Catholic church? Sure they might have a few assets they could sell to in some way compensate the children systematically abused by people under their watch

Well that didn't take long
Why not compare the BBC with the state and council run children's homes

 

[Tramore Ranger]

I thought all you lefties might be more persuaded if I quoted from one of your own... (I didn't undermine my principles and pay for it, I just saw it online)

Good stuff Goldie, your street cred is still intact!!!!!

 

[sku]

No. Simply because it would kill the BBC - and that would be a terrible act of cultural vandalism.

What do you imagine British life and culture would be like without the BBC?

Take music. The Albert Hall in August would be in darkness - there would be no BBC Proms, broadcast across television and radio. The Young Musician of the Year would remain undiscovered. Pop fans would be denied the Radio 1 Big Weekend, and Jools Holland on BBC 2. Musicians in the BBC orchestras could be busking on the street.

What about unknown and untested talent? James Corden, the genius behind Gavin and Stacey, who waited eight years for his part, might still be waiting. The public wouldn't have ever experienced Steve Coogan's Alan Partridge or Tommy Saxondale, nor Ricky Gervais's David Brent.

British 24-hour news would be broadcast by a single provider - Sky with it's inherent links to Rupert Murdoch and News International's political agenda. The BBC's global news-gathering, the envy of the world, would be scaled back to a handful, if that, of foreign bureaux. Democracy wouldn't be screened live by BBC Parliament.

Britain's children would have to be patient for the next US cartoon, as the adverts on Nickelodeon and the Cartoon Network spool by. They would be denied the rich output from CBBC and CBeebies. Teenagers would no longer have the revision tool GCSE Bitesize.

Millions wouldn't be invested in the creative industries outside London - in cities such as Glasgow, Manchester, Birmingham, Bristol, Cardiff and Belfast. BBC local radio would be silent.

Britain would not lead the rest of the world in digital media with services such as the iPlayer for TV and Radio, which allows us access to more content than we've ever had before.

40p a day – TV (9 National and 6 regional plus 15 local bureaux - and 11 international outlets) Strictly, EastEnders, Doctor Who, Sherlock, the World Cup, the Olympics, Match of the Day, CBeebies and CBBC, world renowned drama like War & Peace, Happy Valley and Line of Duty, educational and entertaining natural history programmes, all of the BBC’s radio stations (17 national and 40 local), the BBC website (600m unique visits in January) and iPlayer, news, sport and weather apps, and impartial news from around the world. Something for everybody. It's not even 40p per person but 40p per household, for TV, Radio, iPlayer, the website, three orchestras and one of the most highly regarded news services in the world - and you want to cripple it because of what happened 40 years ago?

96% of the UK population watch, listen or read BBC content every week. They choose the BBC in excess of 140 million times a day - it caters to pensioners, schools, businesses, parents, teenagers, minorities, the blind, the deaf - and if they were groups that are not 'profitable' they wouldn't be catered for in a commercial environment.

The BBC exists to make and broadcast engaging material (that will appeal to everyone) across all it's channels - it is precisely because of this we get innovative content that challenges and pushes the boundaries of news and entertainment. The business of commercial TV companies is simply selling advertising and/or subscriptions - the content is purely secondary to making money - at it's root, if they could get away with screening the same show on a loop they would - it's all about the money for them.

Removed from the need - at least in theory - to attract tens of millions of people to every piece of content, the BBC is in a position to take gambles. You want a modern take on Sherlock Holmes, steeped in the writing of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle? A documentary about steam railways? Broad coverage of the women's football World Cup? A radio documentary about a new percussion instrument? This is the kind of material that the BBC is able to provide... did I mention it was 40p (per household) per day?

What happened was not right, but as was intimated above, what was going on was replicated throughout the establishment, including the church, the Army, in Care homes and all the way up the chain into the highest echelons of power.

Hear hear.

Post of the year.

 

[sku]

The problem is that society judges the organisation, when it really should be judging the vile behaviour of those carrying out the abuse.

The same was levelled at the child welfare authorities related to the 'baby p' enquiry. It makes my blood boil. What about the scummy parents who believed that this murder was totally acceptable. Why isn't there judicial enquiry after enquiry levelled at the perpetrators? Holding them to account. Shaming and humiliating their behaviour. Asking them to publically vindicate 'why'.

I agree that we should also assess the rigour of the safety nets and protocols in place; but the bigger debate is why we allow the focus on this, and by conduct willingly accept the vile behaviour.

I believe the focus should be:

1. Eliminate the vile behaviour
2. Punish those severely as a deterrent
3. Rehabilitate those after punishment, and use repentant perpetrators to address point 1
4. Assess the safety nets in place to protect victims at point 1 - and fund and support these as necessary.

This could apply to the church, groups in Oxford and Rotherham, gang-masters, people traffickers, the list is sadly endless.

No doubt the approach is hugely more more detailed than 1-4.

Nothing in life is that simple - but for me it's the focus that is inconsistent and skewed.

 

[sb_73]

I'm a little disappointed that the thread title does not deliver what it promises, YouTube clips of Johnny Rotten/ Lydon performing at the BBC.

 

[Sooperhoop]

Nevermind, at least someone gave Savile a good thrashing...

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/i-beat-jimmy-savile-black-6265408