There is also the possibility Stewart just didn’t want to stay. Be interesting if we ever hear what sort of offer was made to him after the extension clause was voided
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I meant more what we offered. The assumption seems to be that the club hasn’t offered him a multi year deal, so he interesting if it ever comes out that we did offer him a two year deal or something but he chose to go elsewhere
I assume they've factored in how much he's been able to play for us and possibly how likely he is to get injured again. I looked him up on transfermarkt and did some very crude maths and I'd say he's only been on the pitch for something like 15% of the minutes we've played since he signed.
Wasn't there also some suggestion that we wanted to do something around wages because he's been injured so much?
Club will be sending Salt after him with a baseball bat to reclaim his medical expenses now.
That would be classed as an assault.
It's a highly charged situation, so assault and battery actually....
It's a shame to lose him. But without knowing what terms we offered him, or how they compare to the existing terms, I find it hard to know which side to blame - if either.
Yes we've had ages to activate the option to keep him for another year, but that would presumably have been on his existing terms. And maybe we thought that too high? Or maybe we were only interesting in keeping him if we were still in the Championship (and by the time we knew that, the deadline had passed)?
It does feel frustrating that having stuck by his injuries, we now lose him for free after his longest run of availability. But we bought him injured, so we can't complain.
The key will be to adequately replace him. How easy that will be, or how much that will cost, I don't know. But it has to happen - we can't repeat last season and have Downs for another six months. You could even argue that we now need two new strikers, to complement Larin (and Archer if he keep him).
If I was a fan of any other Championship club, I'd be looking at Stewart on a free and thinking "yes please". Because there's a huge difference between paying £10m for him (or whatever we paid) or getting him for free. But whether he wants to remain in the Championship, or what his wage demands are, again I don't know.
Yes we've had ages to activate the option to keep him for another year, but that would presumably have been on his existing terms. And maybe we thought that too high? Or maybe we were only interesting in keeping him if we were still in the Championship (and by the time we knew that, the deadline had passed)?
It does feel frustrating that having stuck by his injuries, we now lose him for free after his longest run of availability. But we bought him injured, so we can't complain.
The key will be to adequately replace him. How easy that will be, or how much that will cost, I don't know. But it has to happen - we can't repeat last season and have Downs for another six months. You could even argue that we now need two new strikers, to complement Larin (and Archer if he keep him).
If I was a fan of any other Championship club, I'd be looking at Stewart on a free and thinking "yes please". Because there's a huge difference between paying £10m for him (or whatever we paid) or getting him for free. But whether he wants to remain in the Championship, or what his wage demands are, again I don't know.
I recall a Saints fan based in Mallorca (can’t remember who) telling us the guy was laughably bad. Clearly he isn’t though. So not too bothered about what Mallorca fans say about him.
We need someone else of hopefully proven quality too though.
**** him. Since football is now played out in court/legal chambers we should sue him for the pay he took while contributing **** all.
I swear to god if they're even thinking Downs is the answer.....
I swear to god if they're even thinking Downs is the answer.....
Then I'd be looking to be having him committed.
Mini Lincoln just very kindly reminded me we have BBD to come back as well. Archer, BBD and Downs. A perfect triangle of ****.
Let's hope old Spors can work some magic
I do get this argument.. But if Ross was actually fit we wouldn't need 2 strikers of comparable ability.
Ultimately, he was a poor signing for 2 years and had a solid 3rd season. So overall a decent saints career, neither good nor bad.
No ill feeling to the guy, I spoke to him in Winchester in April and he was a sound bloke, but he's hardly been good enough to miss..
I'd take Libby's comment further - a big part of our success Jan onwards was we had two players (or spare) in key positions that were 'starters' and they didnt mind swapping out if it wasn't working or they were tired. Subs didn't weaken us.
Stewart/Larin/Archer (3 for one spot)
Leo/Fellows/Edozie/Matsuki/Robinson (5 for 2 spots)
Flynn/Casper/Charles/Bragg (4 for 2 spots)
Stephens/Wood/THB/Quashie (4 for 2 spots)
Peretz/Bazunu
Ok joking about the keepers. But the others I stand by.
This is why I am not sure what the Bellingham/Rodgers argument for England is about. Start with one and brig the other on.
Whether or not he's missed will depend massively on our striking options next season.
And this is the big advantage of being a parachute payment side. Most Champ clubs simply can’t afford to have two good players in most positions, parachute clubs can. With a 46 game season squad depth is the number one reason teams get promoted
Exactly. This is a decision it'll always be hard to judge and whether it turns out good or bad for Saints will depend on how he's replaced. If he injures himself at the World Cup and/or we sign someone better - or at least similar - nobody will care we released a player who spent the vast majority of his time here in the physio room. If he stays fit, scores 20 goals for someone like Boro or West Ham and we sign another Downs type then everybody will be saying this was a ridiculous decision, how can you release the Loch Ness Drogba etc etc.
I agree a lot about the sentiment, but as a club with a strong history of a good strikers, we've had a Lee Barnard or Billy Sharp to a Rickie Lambert.
Both Larin and Stewart are Billy Sharps, neither are a Lambert.
I'd be happy with either Larin or Stewart playing 30% of minutes. Neither really for 70%.