RM play the way their previous managers have trained them to play - it is ingrained in each and every member of the team exactly how they should play. They will play that way until a new manager drastically changes things. If Giggs had taken over from SAF and had been inclined to continue playing in the same way he would have been a success, unfortunately we took on Moyes who completely destroyed the backroom set-up and then drained the will out of the playing squad by having them change everything that was instinctive about their style of play. Follow that with LvG and it is impossible to imagine that Giggs can do what Zidane is doing - RM are just perpetuating their normal style of play with a different guy on the touchline - our problems are completely different. We need an experienced manager to retrain the whole squad into playing attacking football - I don't think Giggs is that man
Look at it another way. If LVG was managing United against Roma last night I doubt any of us would've been confident of getting any more than a 0-0 draw. But if Giggs was in charge, I'd feel him equally capable as Zidane of getting the same result. Don't get me wrong they have some fantastic players like Ronaldo, Jese, Marcelo, Isco but that Roma side wasnt great - they were good competition but our team are good enough to beat them. My simple comparison... is Giggs in charge of United more than capable of pulling off the same result? And if there's a possibility of that why not let him have a go for the sake of the Europy for the rest of the season. Bcos the alternative is LVG and we have absolutely zero chance of winning any trophy with him in charge so what's to lose?? Do you not think that if Zidane doesnt hit the mark he'll be replaced in the summer at Real? So why not give Giggs the same opportunity.
Rooney out just as he finds some form, he's got a few goals lately and was playing a lot better. He'll be on the ***s and booze again now and will take 12 months to become a footy player again.
I should clarify that the above was actually sarcasm, should a certain person comes back and use it against me for some reason. I think I'm probably alone amongst us in thinking that Rooney being injured is not a good thing.
You are comparing a cosmopolitan colossus of world football, Zidane, to an inbred chav who has not left the North West
Giggs is an emotional choice. We are way past the point of try it and see where we go. If we miss another Champions league after this season, we are fked! To put it bluntly, giving Giggs a chance is not the same thing as giving Manchester United a chance. We need a qualified manager that has been there and done it. Giggs would be a massive gamble and I don't see leadership qualities in his eyes.
So what's your alternative? Because I don't see LVG getting us CL footy unless you're still flogging that horse??
Wasn't sure how many games he had but everyone thought it was moyes fault. Admittedly in 4 games he probably couldn't have affected the team much (although people are congratulating zidane and he's only had about 4 games) but i remember he won his first few and lost/drew the rest. Also everyone thought he would be smashing teams off the park but it way the continuation of turgid Moyesball rather than the swashbuckling fergie team
I was at the last home game against Hull iirc and we won that pretty comfortably tbf. TBH the whole situation was entirely different. We had nothing to play for. Our squad was a spent force and many knew they were leaving. At the end of the Hull game Vidic was saying his goodbyes to the fans. Giggs will instill some sense of attacking style BUT he still needs a decent, defensively minded, or tactically experienced number 2 to give him the best chance. This season, we may be hanging onto top 4 by a thread but there's still all to play for including the Europy and the FA Cup. Compare those aims to that of Zidane at RM, and if that club expects him to achieve league titles and CL glory, surely Giggs can be expected to aim for Top 4 or a Europy/FA Cup? I just don't see what we have to lose. In fact the longer we keep Van Gaal the more we do have to lose.
Thats fair enough. I wouldn't gamble my club on someone who hasnt had any management though at least Zidanes been groomed and had experience coaching the b team . Out of curiousity being a winger or striker has always been about speed or skill and football talent. Maybe occasionally a football brain on movement but when has a winger or striker converted to be a good manager. I actually cant think of any. Gullit, vialli, shearer, zola solsjaer etc etc. Its mote the thinking positions/ defensive positions where you have to think about shape and tactics where the coaches come out on top? Was luis enrique a winger or am?
Zidane has arrived at the RM manager's post by the exact same route as Gladioli did with Barca - via a stint in charge of the B team. That role gave him the chance to experience the pressure of making all the big decisions himself and to deal with all aspects of the manager's job - team selection, fixtures, transfers etc. That is a completely different role from Giggs (for Moyes and LvG) where all he seems to have done is sit there and do not very much at all. There was a time when I would have accepted Giggs as manager, but those days are gone. We cannot afford to take chances with our next manager - the commercial and footballing stakes are just too high. As it is, I would imagine that a number of first-class players would think twice about joining the club - top players want to join successful clubs, and should we stagnate under Giggs I genuinely fear that we would go the same way as the scousers - perennial under-achievers instead of genuine PL and CL contenders which is where a club of our global stature ought to be. There is no place for sentiment in choosing our next manager - it simply has to be the very best talent that is available - nothing else will do. Even with top manager's salaries hitting £11 mill per year this has to be seen as a price worth paying, particularly when you look at the transfer fees and wages for even a mediocre player these days.
More the AM. Giggs did play in midfield more often in his final few years btw. Good point though, but then great managers have often not been good footballers regardless of their position (Fergie being the exception ofcourse ).
