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Page_Moss_Kopite said:
How about giving us all the facts and possible repercussions of what happened and why?

Let's start with the choice of Heysel as the venue for the final, it was/is well documented that LFC objected to Uefa during a pre match visit weeks before the final that it wasn't suitable, the head of the Belgian police and the head of the Belgian FA persuaded Uefa otherwise although it later emerged that Heysel Stadium did not have a valid safety certificate.

During the pre match visit attended by representitives of both clubs, the Belgian police and Uefa the ticketing plans were discussed, LFC secretary objected to the club not being allocated the entire section behind the goal(Juve had been given the whole section behind the opposite goal)and pointed out the possibility of problems if a third of that area was housed by Juventus supporters, the objection was dismissed by Uefa on assurances made by the police and Belgian FA that it wasn't a problem.

Before the game were did you spend your day?, only asking because you might have noticed the running battles in the city centre around 5pm when the bulk of the Juventus supporters arrived, you also never mentioned the 26 stabbings the season before in Rome when our fans got stabbed, slashed and had the **** kicked out of them, this was always going to play its part in Belgium due to Juve being Italian and their ultras also being handy with knives.

If you were in the thick of it as you claim do you remember "both" sets of fans throwing pieces of crumbling concrete at each other?
The part about LFC not making visits to hospitals etc, you really think they'd have been welcomed?, you really think that would have made things better?.
Its a stain n our club that those 39 people died because of the actions of our supporters, we have felt the shame of it ever since and the decent ones amongst us were and are extremely sorry for what happened.
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I went to the Heysel Stadium when Arsenal played Valencia in the ECWC final in 1980.The place was a ****ing dump and the segregation was a joke.The place should never been used for a major European final.
 
Dan Starkey said:
It really is about time people just stopped using that and Hillsborough (yes and Munich) as material for point scoring on a message board. Everyone's got loads of ammunition to wind each other up with without the need to resorting to real human tragedies - FFS there's a very good chance that people on this forum were directly affected by some of these incidents.

Just to add this isn't aimed at PMK's post (it was a decent one to hook my rant onto) though I hope he'd have sussed that anyway!
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Ok Dan.<ok>
 
goonercymraeg said:
I went to the Heysel Stadium when Arsenal played Valencia in the ECWC final in 1980.The place was a f**king dump and the segregation was a joke.The place should never been used for a major European final.
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You're spot on with that comment gc, that alone wasn't the cause of the deaths of 39 juve supporters so we accept our supporters part in it and are deeply sorry.
 
Page_Moss_Kopite said:
You're spot on with that comment gc, that alone wasn't the cause of the deaths of 39 juve supporters so we accept our supporters part in it and are deeply sorry.
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There weren't even any turnstiles when I went.There was just a steel door and you gave your ticket to a fellah when you went in.There is **** all that could have been done if people had tried to force their way in
 
Page_Moss_Kopite said:
How about giving us all the facts and possible repercussions of what happened and why?

Let's start with the choice of Heysel as the venue for the final, it was/is well documented that LFC objected to Uefa during a pre match visit weeks before the final that it wasn't suitable, the head of the Belgian police and the head of the Belgian FA persuaded Uefa otherwise although it later emerged that Heysel Stadium did not have a valid safety certificate.

During the pre match visit attended by representitives of both clubs, the Belgian police and Uefa the ticketing plans were discussed, LFC secretary objected to the club not being allocated the entire section behind the goal(Juve had been given the whole section behind the opposite goal)and pointed out the possibility of problems if a third of that area was housed by Juventus supporters, the objection was dismissed by Uefa on assurances made by the police and Belgian FA that it wasn't a problem.

Before the game were did you spend your day?, only asking because you might have noticed the running battles in the city centre around 5pm when the bulk of the Juventus supporters arrived, you also never mentioned the 26 stabbings the season before in Rome when our fans got stabbed, slashed and had the **** kicked out of them, this was always going to play its part in Belgium due to Juve being Italian and their ultras also being handy with knives.

If you were in the thick of it as you claim do you remember "both" sets of fans throwing pieces of crumbling concrete at each other?
The part about LFC not making visits to hospitals etc, you really think they'd have been welcomed?, you really think that would have made things better?.
Its a stain n our club that those 39 people died because of the actions of our supporters, we have felt the shame of it ever since and the decent ones amongst us were and are extremely sorry for what happened.
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Pretty sure I read that we objected to using Heysel a couple of seasons before too, these comments were also ignored. (I may be getting mixed up with Hillsborough here though :huh:)
 
****ing hell, the sole purpose of this thread is to have a laugh.

The above isn't that.

Not sure where it became a thread about the two H's and Munich but if this really, really needs to be discussed yet again then start a thread. Unless it crosses a line it won't be closed. Feel free.
 
I want to put moderators who don't like people discussing disasters on a jokey football thread into Room 101. <whistle> And people who change their status on facebook every time one of their kids has a dump.-
 
No more derailing of this thread. You bunch of ****s. This thread if for the venting of your spleen in an amusing way.

Thank you please.
 
Fans of clubs who if there club was having the season we are, it would be considered their greatest ever.

That in itself isnt the issue but the fact there are so many people who are genuinely that thick in existence does.
 
Skylarker* said:
Bunch of ****ers - where I live we get swamped by the ****ers every summer.

Even that nobber Gerrez visited <grr>
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<laugh> I work in central london so never see any of them with their cameras / phones / iPads taking pictures of everything and nothing, their hanging out of red phone boxes as though it's some kind of act of comedy genius, wearing silly policeman hats, standing in the middle of the road completely ignoring the fact that you're in a rush, standing on the wrong side of the escalator on the tube and when they get on the platform treating it like it's some kind of central bloody meeting point etc etc. Nope - never see any of that and if i did i'm sure it wouldn't fill my mind with thoughts of geniocide.,
 
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