i must say i'm totally disappointed with todays result. is it Rodgers fault or the players for not playing to their potential. when Gerrard came on the game totally changed because of some passion and spirit. i don't know who's responsible but something has to be done. really pissed off...
Olive Garden or Macaronni grill for me mate, but good call on Carraba's. Oh and Chille's for my fajitas and Red Lobster for my Scallops
Complete mess against teams that bully us. Mansfield were the same and stoke to a bigger extent. Everton should fair better against Oldham, hoofing it back and forth.
You beat us fair and square on that front, we won that last year and it was deemed mickey mouse for us ( apparently), what would that trophy mean to you? I like ( starting to lose it with the wums) swansea, I like Laudrup, Michu, etc. But the wums recently are really putting me off it. Bradford is the fairytale, Swansea is the team you want in Europa because you know they have a chance to do well and the better your teams do, the more pedigree your league has ( look at German and Spanish to see how good they are in all comps)
Don't want to jump straight on Rodgers back but if he is going to pass the buck on to 'the youngsters' he needs to look at his part in the fiasco too! 1) Only five of the starting 11 versus Norwich started today 2) Possibly the FIRST time that backline has EVER played together before 3) No leader in defence at all! Skrtel whilst the most senior is no leader or organiser, Jones is not commanding enough to organise that inexperienced backline either 4) No Lucas to offset number 3 either just compounds all the above! 5) Poor substitutions Complacency starts at the managers door with the team selection. Now perhaps certain individuals performed below par, but to begin with a backline with no leader and the first time they have all played together before Rodgers must take his share of the blame for this. Yes as a member of a Liverpool F.C squad players should be able to step in and perform better. However in Rodgers own words "There is no excuse. You have to take it on the chin, but there has been plenty of warnings throughout the weekend if your application is not right you can get found out." Swap aplication for complacency and give the guy a mirror!!!!
Not wumming, not that I've watched you but results wise and reading the papers you seem to be getting a run going not only winning but playing well.maybe yesterday Rodgers team selection was complacency, believing his own press or even showing disrespect to Oldham .
don't think it was complacency, just showed we have some players in the team who simply are not good enough. apart from Gerrard and Cara not sure where our grit and determination to try and win games will come from. if we are going to try and play a reasonably strong lineup, i wish we would do it from the ruddy start and hopefully then bring players off to rest them, not the other way round where we need to bring them on to chase the game. i know some wont like this but i am struggling to see where Jones,Coates and Robinson will fit in to a Liverpool team that supposedly have ambitions of top 4 again, they are simply not good enough in my opinion.
I don't really understand the blame being laid at the door of the younger players. Rodgers picked a team with an average age of 22 (I think) for a tricky away match. I don't get this plan of having the best player/s on the bench "just in case". Every time Rodgers has tried that it hasn't worked and he's had to throw on Gerrard or Suarez to try and rescue the game. Start with your best team then bring off those players if you're comfortable. From where I was standing I thought the worst performances were from the front three and the two centre backs plus a horrendous blunder from Jones. Suarez was awful, Sturridge was worse than awful, Borini I just don't see anything from him to suggest he should be anywhere near a Prem team, Skrtel and Coates especially looked incapable of dealing with the bombardment that was always going to happen. Add the hapless Allen and the totally ineffective Sterling into the mix and it was a recipe for disaster from minute one. As for the substitutions...what use is Sterling ever going to be chasing a game like that? What use is Mr Sideways going to be either? Both should have been hauled off and I'd have had no problem if he'd taken Sturridge off either as he might as well have been playing for Oldham the amount of times he gifted it to them. Henderson at right back when we needed his presence in the middle to pick up second balls and hustle their back line and midfielders. A bad performance from the team but a far worse one from the manager. Much improvement needed for Wednesday.
Billy, I agree with you about winning games first and then resting players. However, that has not just been a failing of Rodgers as many of our former managers have done the same ( except for Hodgson - but only because he was never in that position!). It was a strategic failing of the first order. Sure the youngsters need game time experience and new permutations of players have to be tried but it has to be done in the right games and this was never going to be one, With the best will in the world we could never expect Oldham to take us on by playing pass and move. They were always going to make a battle out of it - and our kids were not equipped to take on that battle. So yes Rodgers does have to take some responsibility but so do many of the players who took the pitch. Arsenal is a totally different type of game and one that our players are more suited for. However, I don't see any 'lazy' Gerrard this morning!
Rodgers looked to shift the blame straight onto the younger players who came in, rather than protecting them & blaming himself for his team selection & admitting he'd got it wrong. Managers who's first reaction to a poor defeat is to blame the players, tend to rapidly lose dressing rooms.... How long til the Rafa banners are out then lads?
another season at least TB agree he should have taken the blame himself for poor selection rather than trying to blame the youngsters(some managers blame the officials for losing don't they!), managers now days get criticised for the slightest thing anyway, he should have taken the focus off the youngsters and taken the blame himself.
I agree largely with what you are saying here! To shift the blame so quickly on to the youngsters is just poor form in my opinion, also very clever to use the word 'application', rather than complacency which would have been easy to then extend to his own selections! Always thought he came across as a bit of a used car salesman, things like this do little to change my opinion!
This is somewhat of a semantic argument. Sure the manager picks the side and should take responsibility for picking for both the selection and the tactics. However, he has every right to castigate them if they don't perform to the standard expected. Whilst we refer to some of our players as kids, they are in fact professionals and not shrinking violets. If they can't stand reasonable criticism then we don't need them. Rodgers is big and ugly enough to take the criticism.
