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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Tobes, Nov 2, 2014.

  1. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Try reading post five. I didn't bring united into this. Someone couldn't resist. <ok>

    Its clearly what the people wanted. As always. Without fail.
     
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  2. Tobes

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    I've not seen enough from any of the young lads you mention there to conclude that they'll end up being good investments.

    Markovic looks a right lemon.

    Can, what is he? Looks like a bog standard CM player to me

    Moreno - looks good going forwards, but a liability in defence

    Manquillo - can't get past Johnson so that doesn't bode particularly well......

    Lovren @ £20m was a right **** up, I'd have not paid half of that. Lallana is a good player, but never a £25m player and as you rightly say, no better than what you already had, hence his place on the bench. Balotelli is simply a bell end, and the polar opposite of what you lost to Barca, an ego trip signing from a Rodgers imo, as he somehow concluded that he could mould him, despite far better than him trying and failing in that regard, as the mans a complete dolt.
     
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  3. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    But everysingle fan wants him as our forst place. Rodgers has gone down the experience route. Anyway Johnson won't get a contract renewal and Manq is on a 2 year loan - so things will change eventually!!
     
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  4. DirtyFrank

    DirtyFrank Well-Known Member

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    We'll see. There! a LFC fan opinion for you.

    Love the generalisations thrown around by some. Have confidence in your own opinion.
     
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  5. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    We went through this in my tread last week.

    I keep saying this as I believe it, we have good players and some mentioned here are good players it's the formation and style of play that's the problem and that is down to the manager.

    I also believe that he's a talented young manager that needs the right advice from his staff at this point and he's not getting it.

    What happens next is the big worry.
     
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  6. Skylarker

    Skylarker PL High Commissioner

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    I take you mean when i said 'every single' ????

    If so, appolgies - but that is the impression I'm getting. could well be wrong!!!
     
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  7. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    This is utter bollocks uir and you know it... You all ran off like spoilt brats last year and you know it.... You should know you were the only one deluded enough to stay on this board.... Which you are lucky is not like the spuds one or you'd be banned long since....
     
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  8. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    Oh and for tobes if Rodgers is a fraud then Martinez is worse a never was
     
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  9. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    The Dead Wood Thread and this are the same thing I keep posting the same thing in both threads.

     
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  10. Tobes

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    This thread isn't about Martinez, but for the record, he's achieved more in the game than Mr Clever.
     
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  11. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

    Flappy Flanagan (JK) Well-Known Member

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    Rodgers is not a fraud. Its just his style is very very attacking. His attacking style is also very reliant on a certain style of player.

    Sterling, Sturridge, Coutinho and Lallana are the right type of player and Markovic is meant to be but some thing seems off.

    But Balotelli is absolutely not that style of player. This means that once Sturridge got injured we did not have the right style of player available for his spot to replace him, meaning Balotelli has to do it by hasnt to i mean is but maybe shouldnt be).

    This season is the perfect example of what happens when the wrong types of players are mixed together. Even if they are both top quality, a square peg cannot fill a round hole.
     
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  12. Tobes

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    He bought Balotelli though, and all the other duds.

    So who's responsible for the wrong mix of players?

    Rodgers inherited a World class striker and stumbled across a wining formula when he had to shoehorn him and Sturridge into the same side. As it wasn't his 'style' at all, his entire 'philosophy' was tiki taka.
     
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  13. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Stop defelcting some of you. Its abour rodgers, not united or everton or martinez, van gaal or anyone.

    And mito, our boards always been the same. Luv is the most active poster on our board.
     
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  14. Flappy Flanagan (JK)

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    He dropped the tiki taka after 5 or 6 months. He adapted well, bring in Sturridge and Coutinho.

    Balotelli was a panic buy. I reckon he did not want him but gave in because we could afford to not sign a striker.

    Other duds? Give them time. Most of them are young.

    I actually just came here to make another point.

    Is Ayre penny pinching ruin our transfer work.

    We spent ages trying to get Swansea to budge on Bony's fee. Bony is a much more mobile and hard working striker with a strong PL goal record. Signing him would have made much more sense. But we refused to pay £19m for him. But Balotelli only cost £3m less and was an obvious risk, so it makes the penny pinching look ridiculous. Lavezzi is also the same situation.

    We also refused to budgeon a similar price difference for Salah and missed out to Chelsea.

    We over paid on some players but every one knows strikers cost a bit extra. Why were we only prepared to go cheaper on a striker?


    I reckon we are trying to sign Reus and are biding our time to get a better deal (as his contract runs down), and Balotelli is just a stop gap. But Bony would have made much more sense and would be a solid option from the bench should we sign Reus.
     
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  15. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    we can do what the **** we like on our own board, and the point about vaan gaal etc was brought into it as brendan is being labelled a fraud something that would be more appropriate to other managers first, so who's deflecting?
     
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  16. Rubbersoul

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    Regards to Balotelli, he bought him in hope he can change how he plays completely, when he found out he couldnt play that way he's just stuck him there and continued to play how he wants us to play with no regards to Balotelli. Balo likes to come deep to receive the ball, we need runners to go behind him.

    I believe rodgers will sort it out, and what better way than against either Madrid or Chelsea tbh.
     
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  17. Jürgenmeiʃter

    Jürgenmeiʃter Top top top top top flirt

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    Rodgers obv deserves more time, I havent been keen on his stubbeness of playing Ballo up front tough. So far our signings havent been amazing, but its still early days


    As for not on much you will notice I havent been on much all season. Im v busy at work and that comes first im afraid. And then in the evenings ive been busy again

    Im off out now and I certainly wont be sat on here with my hone while im eating my carvery. I'll just order a couple of pints of bitter then it will be like we're face to face Tobes and UIR :tongue:
     
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  18. ValleyGraduate12

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    A lot to do with this is the perception built in the media and the praise heaped upon him for getting Swansea to the premiership. The media and pundits all credit BR for bringing his philosophy to Swansea City whereas all Swansea fans will tell you it was Roberto Martinez who brought our style of play to Swansea and gave us the foundations to be where we are today. Look how quick RM turned Everton's style of play with no superstar up front in his first season. In short, you got the wrong manager. You should have brought in Martinez, but for whatever reason, he said no.
     
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  19. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet
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    As both have managed Swansea, RM is in a different league to BR and a much better manager who has a great eye in the transfer market. Hell, give Martinez £100 million to spend at Everton and they'd walk straight into the top 4.
     
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  20. jenners04

    jenners04 I must not post porn!

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    i know its hard to believe <laugh> but tobes is a blue, so he got the right manager in your opinion.
     
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