Rodgers Sacked

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Culmination of everything this season (and the last 3 too) ...not just one match. <ok>

That's fair enough but it still comes to this point and leaves him with just the Everton game (actually, it's the Sion and Everton game)
 
If you got a result in the derby then there's no way they could pot him in the International break.

His fate lies with his players imo. If THEY want him gone they could tank the derby and he'd be toast.
 
If you got a result in the derby then there's no way they could pot him in the International break.

His fate lies with his players imo. If THEY want him gone they could tank the derby and he'd be toast.

Players don't need to tank.

Rodgers needs to set up as normal and we'll probably lose.

Perfect time to sack him.
 
Players don't need to tank.

Rodgers needs to set up as normal and we'll probably lose.

Perfect time to sack him.
The timely return of Sturridge gives you a decent chance imo, without him I'd have said we're the clear favourites.

It'll be interesting to see the side he puts out on Thursday, as he needs to win both games.
 
The timely return of Sturridge gives you a decent chance imo, without him I'd have said we're the clear favourites.

It'll be interesting to see the side he puts out on Thursday, as he needs to win both games.

Rodgers and everyone else have put all their hopes on the striker. Hope he stays fit. <ok>

Carragher said he is the best striker after Aguero.
 
I wonder whether Martinez will put someone on him. He'll be our main threat by a long distance.
I doubt he'll man mark him. He'll seek to cut out the supply and not give him too many opportunities to get in behind.
 
Liverpool based Times correspondent Tony Barrett has made some interesting claims in a webchat today.

The journalist believes that Jurgen Klopp, currently out of work, would be happy to speak to Liverpool regarding an appointment should Brendan Rodgers lose his job, but the club are not considering him a viable alternative.






Why they wouldn’t be, as Barrett agrees, reeks of arrogance considering the German’s CV.

Barrett went on to suggest Rodgers made a mistake in his aggressive comments after the weekend’s Aston Villa victory, and that Mike Gordon and not John W. Henry is actually the board member with most influence now.

Here’s what Barrett had to say:

If Liverpool do decide to make a change, then they should talk to Klopp at the very least. John Henry was an admirer when he took over. The suggestions are that Liverpool wouldn’t pursue Klopp if Rodgers does go. I can’t work it out as it smacks of arrogance. Klopp is willing to talk to Liverpool, a club which has finished outside of top 4 in 5 of last 6 seasons. It’s not as if Liverpool will have their pick of elite managers.

If Liverpool aren’t playing well & results are poor, then heightened scrutiny is absolutely inevitable. The manager, whoever he may be, has to accept that because it goes hand in hand with being manager of one the world’s biggest and most newsworthy clubs. It’s also one of the reasons why they get paid millions of pounds for doing the job.

John Henry is not the pivotal figure that he once was. Mike Gordon’s influence is now strongest. He has a hands on role at Liverpool. There’s nothing to suggest that there’s any kind of split at Liverpool on Rodgers.

I have no problem with managers saying what they think. I do think Rodgers would have been better waiting for a winning run before going on the offensive. He’s feeling the pressure,& I got the impression he was trying to create siege mentality. When you do that, though, you have to win your next big game or else your critics will just up the ante. It was a big gamble/mad risk considering Liverpool’s next big game is the derby.

Liverpool as a club are not creating the conditions for success. They don’t sign elite players & they allow ones they have to leave. They prioritise potential over experience & then wonder why they have no leaders. At some point the penny will drop. There will be a realisation at Liverpool that the whole club is struggling to be the best it can be and its not just down to the manager.

I agree that Rodgers has to take the criticism as it goes with the territory, the salary & profile. It wasn’t so long ago that he was hailed as a tactical genius, so now critics have gone other way, Rodgers has to accept it.
 
Liverpool based Times correspondent Tony Barrett has made some interesting claims in a webchat today.

The journalist believes that Jurgen Klopp, currently out of work, would be happy to speak to Liverpool regarding an appointment should Brendan Rodgers lose his job, but the club are not considering him a viable alternative.






Why they wouldn’t be, as Barrett agrees, reeks of arrogance considering the German’s CV.

Barrett went on to suggest Rodgers made a mistake in his aggressive comments after the weekend’s Aston Villa victory, and that Mike Gordon and not John W. Henry is actually the board member with most influence now.

Here’s what Barrett had to say:

If Liverpool do decide to make a change, then they should talk to Klopp at the very least. John Henry was an admirer when he took over. The suggestions are that Liverpool wouldn’t pursue Klopp if Rodgers does go. I can’t work it out as it smacks of arrogance. Klopp is willing to talk to Liverpool, a club which has finished outside of top 4 in 5 of last 6 seasons. It’s not as if Liverpool will have their pick of elite managers.

If Liverpool aren’t playing well & results are poor, then heightened scrutiny is absolutely inevitable. The manager, whoever he may be, has to accept that because it goes hand in hand with being manager of one the world’s biggest and most newsworthy clubs. It’s also one of the reasons why they get paid millions of pounds for doing the job.

John Henry is not the pivotal figure that he once was. Mike Gordon’s influence is now strongest. He has a hands on role at Liverpool. There’s nothing to suggest that there’s any kind of split at Liverpool on Rodgers.

I have no problem with managers saying what they think. I do think Rodgers would have been better waiting for a winning run before going on the offensive. He’s feeling the pressure,& I got the impression he was trying to create siege mentality. When you do that, though, you have to win your next big game or else your critics will just up the ante. It was a big gamble/mad risk considering Liverpool’s next big game is the derby.

Liverpool as a club are not creating the conditions for success. They don’t sign elite players & they allow ones they have to leave. They prioritise potential over experience & then wonder why they have no leaders. At some point the penny will drop. There will be a realisation at Liverpool that the whole club is struggling to be the best it can be and its not just down to the manager.

I agree that Rodgers has to take the criticism as it goes with the territory, the salary & profile. It wasn’t so long ago that he was hailed as a tactical genius, so now critics have gone other way, Rodgers has to accept it.


I have always doubted he was a tactical genius. Even those pundits who in past went overbaord in their praise for him now recognise it was all due to one man - Suarez. Many people could not accept that one player could have such an effect. Many people took Rodgers at his word and he is very good at self promotion. In fact, Gerrard has now written that some of the players (Suarez, Sturridge, Gerrard) in that good season had to persuade him that we had to move the ball quicker to the front. Of course he would never admit to that, would he?
 
I have always doubted he was a tactical genius. Even those pundits who in past went overbaord in their praise for him now recognise it was all due to one man - Suarez. Many people could not accept that one player could have such an effect. Many people took Rodgers at his word and he is very good at self promotion. In fact, Gerrard has now written that some of the players (Suarez, Sturridge, Gerrard) in that good season had to persuade him that we had to move the ball quicker to the front. Of course he would never admit to that, would he?

We had Suarez for a year and a half without challenging for the title. It was pairing Suarez with Sturridge, Sterling and Coutinho that led to the [HASHTAG]#worldclass[/HASHTAG] performances

Or is the new revisionist story that SAS stood for Suarez and Someone to pass to Suarez?
 
I have always doubted he was a tactical genius. Even those pundits who in past went overbaord in their praise for him now recognise it was all due to one man - Suarez. Many people could not accept that one player could have such an effect. Many people took Rodgers at his word and he is very good at self promotion. In fact, Gerrard has now written that some of the players (Suarez, Sturridge, Gerrard) in that good season had to persuade him that we had to move the ball quicker to the front. Of course he would never admit to that, would he?
My issue with this story wasn't so much what it said about BR but who is dominant at LFC hierarchy.

Mike Gordon is a member of the committee and and part of FSG. Is he going to readily admit that the committee failed and is his reluctance to look at Klopp because it's been made clear that Klopp would want a dissolution of said committee?
 
I have always doubted he was a tactical genius. Even those pundits who in past went overbaord in their praise for him now recognise it was all due to one man - Suarez. Many people could not accept that one player could have such an effect. Many people took Rodgers at his word and he is very good at self promotion. In fact, Gerrard has now written that some of the players (Suarez, Sturridge, Gerrard) in that good season had to persuade him that we had to move the ball quicker to the front. Of course he would never admit to that, would he?

Of course, the counter argument could be pre-Rodgers; why didn't Suarez perform in the same manner under Dalglish?
 
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