half a billion quids worth of squad and you still cant beat swansea. FECKIN LOOOL !!! w@@@@@@@@@@nklers
It could be a lot worse we could be in fourth on 49 points with chelsea breathing down our necks and about to lose our only decent striker. I have to ask whats a ****ler ?
So you don't fancy our chances of winning the Europa cup ? How confident are you that you will finish fourth ? Me bitter wherever do you get that idea, you seem to be the one obsessed with money I have nothing to be bitter about..
You may be right we may not win the PL this season as now our run in on paper looks harder than Uniteds, time will tell. The Europa League is something of a mystery, i have never followed it as we were never likely to take part so have to take each match as it comes and read when the so called experts have to say about the oposition, we have beaten the holders so that is a start, its nice to see the team play midweek without having to pay Sky or ESPN .
a ****ler is a man city fan . A team who have to BUY a small silver cup for half a billion pounds . so crap are they that they can only achieve this remarkable "success" by BUYING the best players of their rivals . Unfortunately they can not buy the entire Man Utd squad and are therefore doomed to fail . tsk tsk . We may be 4th mate but we are there coz we earned it , not bought it . we made 10s of millions of pounds in profit for the first half year . You spent half a billion quid and are ................second . Good aint it.
"You may be right we may not win the PL this season as now our run in on paper looks harder than Uniteds, time will tell. " awww poor thing . chuck some more money at it you tw@ts ! god forbid you should EARN your place at the top like the rest of the teams .
The story is utter BS anyway. Van Persie's girlfriend just addressed it via Twitter: "Rumours, rumours, rumours pfff getting tired of them," she said via her Twitter account. "Please don't believe anything unless it comes from @Persie_Official him self."
It probably is but until RVP himself ends all the speculation by signing or handing in a transfer request, they will increase by day.... Im wondering if RVP is waiting to see if Wenger and co put in sufficient squad investment before making a decision. I think we'll get top 4 or even 3rd so Champs league won't be the issue....
Obviously the cup means something to SAF as he puts strong teams out as does RM, i would love to win it, will you have the same thoughts next season if you are playing in it?
Yes it is good as i have said several times i would not swap our position now for mid table mediocrity. Again you point out the money we have spent and the position we are in and again i will remind you our owners are here long term and they have said instant success is not a a priority, we have slipped to second place by one point with 10 games to go I am not unduly worried, if we do not win the PL but finish second we have finished higher than we did last season, happy days.
How will the FFP rules effect you? I cant see how you are going to meet them. The wages you pay even average players are insane. I think you pay some average players twice what they could get elsewhere.
The FFP rules are going to punish small clubs (first paragraph) and not punish clubs like mine that have spent big money (second paragraph) I have heard pundits say they are unworkable and are destined to fail, they are probably right. Criticism of FFP In the wake of the introduction of FFP, a number of commentators pointed to what they viewed as negative aspects of the new legislation. For example, it was thought unlikely that under the new system smaller clubs would ever again be able to challenge the ‘established order’ by winning trophies with short term heavy spending on players in an attempt to raise their profile, support and income - ultimately turning themselves into a more self sustaining and successful concern. Others pointed to loopholes in the legislation itself. For example up until the 2013/14 and 2014/15 season, clubs will be allowed to exclude from the FFP calculation the wages of players signed before June 2010 - as long as they can show an improved trend in their accounts. There were also concerns about the potential for large clubs to artificially raise their income from massive sponsorship deals or stadium naming rights via companies with a vested interest in the club’s success, or from the sales of “overseas rights” to consortiums without clearly identified investors. In addition, there remains the issue of widely differing tax rates and social security costs which the European leagues are subject to, meaning that some clubs have to pay a player much higher gross wages in order for him to be left with the same net salary as if he belonged to a club in another country. E.g. if a player at an English club is to be left with a €100,000 a week wage after tax, he must be paid €200,000 gross, as opposed to €130,000 at a Spanish club. One area of concern for English clubs is the practice of third-party ownership. Under this model, companies or wealthy individuals buy a percentage of a young player in the hope that if his value increases in the future they will make a profit based on their percentage. The advantage for clubs is that they can make big savings from not having to pay the full transfer value of a player and can also make other financial gains e.g. from selling on a player’s image rights. Following the problems caused by the sale of Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano to West Ham in 2006, third party ownership was banned in the Premiership, although it is widely used in South America and Europe and is permissible under FFP. Following the introduction of FFP, the Premiership unsuccessfully lobbied UEFA to review the situation to avoid English clubs being disadvantaged, and in October 2011 the leading sports lawyer Jean-Louis Dupont told the BBC that the Premier League's third-party ownership rules were not legitimate and that a legal challenge to overturn them would have a “very, very good chance of succeeding”. Another very big issue for English clubs is the substantial payments made to the lower leagues in the football ‘pyramid’ and to other charities out of their joint Sky TV deal. In 2009 /2010, Premiership clubs paid a total of £167.2m to various causes, including £62.2m to recently relegated clubs in ‘parachute payments’, £56.4m across the Football League in ‘solidarity payments’, £17.3m to the Professional Footballers' Association, £7.8m domestically and £3m internationally to the Creating Chances Trust ( a charity for children leaving care), £12m to other charities such as the Football Foundation, which provides funding for grass roots sport, £2.9m to Professional Game Match Officials (referees and assistant referees), £2m to the National Conference (currently known as the Blue Square Bet Premier) and £500,000 to the League Managers Association. These payments cannot be discounted from FFP. The German, Italian and Spanish leagues are not run along this model, with only France’s Lique 1 among the big European leagues having a similar system of solidarity payments to outside interests. The amounts paid by Premiership clubs, around £8.36m per club or a very significant 14% of turnover could make all the difference to a smaller club failing to meet FFP, yet could actually be stopped at any time by a 14-6 majority vote of the 20 club chairmen, and as of March 2012, the Premiership continues to lobby UEFA to request that these payments can be offset against the FFP calculations
I don't begrudge Man City their windfall as they are not the only team to get a huge financial advantage over other teams eg Barca, Real etc. But i really detest the way they have screwed up the wage scale in the premiership. Paying players like Ade around 150k a week is frankly ludicrous. It only distorts the wage stucture and puts too much pressure on other clubs and fans.
So basically its all bs and its there to screw the premier league system and reward barca and real. Who would of thought uefa would favour barca and real??? O wait...see it every week in the champions league
The chequebook bullies won't allow the FFP Rules to get in the way of them playing with their toys, they'll hire better lawyers than EUFA and money will win the day, this is destined to fail. Clubs like Arsenal are just going to have to accept that Man City and Chelsea are here to stay for a while, let their fans enjoy their plastic success because at some point they'll probably become the next Rangers or Pompey....
