To be honest if anyone's willing to pay £71m for a player that's had just 1 full injury free season is well worth taking. Obviously providing we use that money to buy players with straight away!!! I'd rather keep RVP but Arsenal FC is greater than 1 player and the priority is to get Arsenal back to the very top and that means getting the best players.
£25 million might be already spoken for - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2113246/Arsene-Wenger-break-bank-Mario-Gotze.html
It is quite likely to happen - however, right now it's merely speculation. Best thing Wenger can do is BUY - proven quality, and get on with it when the window opens.
Yeh but I expect you have Dzeko on something like 150k a week and I highly doubt milan or juve will be willing to go far above 100k a week for the lad. Hence he is hard to sell. Just like bridge. People want him but only at about 20k a week. You are paying him 80k a week. So you cant sell. Its a terrible model which lacks flexibility.
TBH this will probably be RVP's best season ever. If we end up getting 35m for the lad then it will be a good bit of business considering his age and injury problems. Obviously I want to keep him. The main reason being that £35m would go into kroenke's pocket and not into new players. But if we sell him for 35/40m AND reinvest then it might be another good move from arsene. Look at adebayoor, toure, nasri...we flogged them all for about 2 times their value and it has helped the club I would argue.
I agree but am sure they know what they are doing and will find a way to sell the players they no longer need.
Not that easy though. Our management know what they are doing but we cant sell our deadwood either. Its not as big a deal as you as our deadwood (almunia, denilson, bendy, and others) are on (rumoured) around 50k a week. They are worth maybe 25k a week and so we cant get rid of them and its hurting us by swalloing resources we want to put into new signings. Thats why fergie and man utd's management are so good. Somehow they never have that clown in the ranks who is eating up big time wages. Fergie gets it wrong just as much as wenger or you guys have. Look at people like obertan. They are dire but somehow fergie manages to get rid of them. I think its partly because fergie has good relations with other managers and partly because people presume if man u bougt anyone then they must be quality. O Shea, Brown, Obertan, Gibson...all terrible players but fergie had no difficulty offloading them all. I think he just has players who love playing football on his books too. So maybe they are willing to take wage cuts. Its unavoidably the case that you will have a large proportion of money grabbers in your squad. They wont be easy to offload. I think you should immediately start to cut the wages you offer to new players. But you wont, so I really dont see any sort of bright future in the long term at city. Surely the owners would of been better slowly building a sustainable model with their investments.
There is no chance of Arsenal getting £71m for RVP, that is ridiculous he's 28. £30m tops for me, I reckon we could get Cavani for that if he wanted to join so if we can't get RVP for £30m then we should go for Cavani (assuming we are looking to buy a new forward in the summer).
How does it go into Kroenke's pocket??? He doesn;t own the club outright so can't take money out of it. All he can do to take funds is to issue a dividened (something Arsenal have never done). While it may not go back into player acquisition it doesn't leave the club.
The question is how many players are they planning to sell, obviously Tevez is top of the list and i assume as there is interest in Dzeko he will be on his way providing they can agree terms, as we need 8 home-grown players in the team the likes of Barry may not be on the list.
yeah 71mn is ridiculous - i think it includes transfer fee and wages like the quoted Adebayoor cost city 55 million while the transfer fee was 25mn and the other thirty is wages. maybe a transfer fee of 30mn and wages of 40mn (210k p/w 4 years) seems to get that figure
The agent is Darren Dein. If he spreads this rumor, he actually accuses ManCity of breaking FA and UEFA rules by talking to the player without Arsenal permission. I do not think Arsenal could give permission to talk to RVP without talking to him first, they said RV was not for sale. So if the source is his agent, and it is a lie, it potentially may end up in court. So I doubt he would do it.
True but it effectively just goes into increasing the value of the club which increases the value of the owners holdings. But you are right, maybe it would be a good thing for the club. I said that in another post.
Pretty sure it would just be nod-nod wink-wink. Nobody would know. The agent spreads the story (a lie) and the journo is happy to go along with it because it sells papers.
But it is easy for Arsenal to check - just call ManCity and ask what the **** is going on. Then sue the newspaper. Win 3 ml case, give the money to RVP. Easy ))
1. The Sunday Times is a rag which I have found to often spread misleading rubbish. This is not limited to sport, but to shares on the stock exchange too. There seems to always be an agenda to meet, so don't be surprised if this is Manchester City publicising what they they will pay RVP. I'm sure the ST have been well payed for this story rather than the other way round. 2. I am an Arsenal fan and if I was playing for Arsenal I wouldn't sign a new contract until I was sure we would get into the Champions League, and sure the board/manager were commited to improving the squad in the short term. RVP is 28 now? In a couple of years his value will start to decrease, and his prospects will follow. This is a big moment in his career. I'm sure he wants to stay with Arsenal though. 3. Would RVP really want to move to the same club as Adebayor? Would he want to follow money-grabbing Nasri? Or would he look at City as the squad where players go to "die" effectively, where careers are ruined, not made, by being paid to sit on the bench. RVP would probably get played a lot, but one bad run of form, one injury, and it's bench time, possibly indefinitely. Players want clubs to be loyal to them. Nasri had it, now he knows what he gave up. He's rightly waiting till the end of the season, and so should we. Our form, and the potential signing of Podolski are good signs. Lets wrap up Hazard in the summer, and welcome back Wilshere from injury very soon.
Nasri is fast becoming a nobody. he didnt know what was good for him and moved for the money. Poor mug.
Are people genuinely saying they would pay no more than £30 million for RVP? It's a shame he won't be playing for you then. He is 3rd only to Messi/Ronaldo in the scoring charts. He is THE best forward in the league. He has been called the future of Dutch football since he was a kid - the next big thing (as said by the dutch greats). He has just been injured and so never been able to hit his potential. Now he is fit he is like gold. We got £35mil for Fabregas and that is due to him wanting to leave badly for one club only (we also get 50% of any future fee and first refusal to buy him back). Are we really gonna let a player who is actually more important to the team go for less? Not to mention you guys paid us £25mil for Nasri who is nowhere near the standard of RVP. RVP also would not play hard ball with Arsenal. He will not let his contract run down and force Arsenal to accept less money. Anyone who wants him will have to pay over the odds. I'd say £50 million should be the starting point for negotiations! Even then i'd rather keep him. Infact you could offer any amount and i'd pretty much think it was stupid to sell. He is of a different class. The money wouldn't buy a replacement for him. Oh and i think this story is al oad of rubbish!!!! He isn't goign anywhere!!!
