Rival Watch
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True, LVG would've decided that the point was safe and shut up shop against the 9 men.
I've never had much love for LVG! I now just know he's the lying, coward I have suspected he was for a while and am concerned that he's doing long term damage to the club. Fanboys may want to love him because he's a big name but fanboys are a different breed to regular football fans.And yours distinctively bitter like a jaded lover.
You all take it too far. Regardless of current situation, the fundamental structure is there to sustain a better future. It was never there three years ago. Therefore, the case of "long term" damage is all but fear mongering. So let's just chill! A new manager will come in eventually and we start again.
As long as we don't rip it up and start again. Which I don't think we will but some managers do concern me.
Not sure why you think the structure is better now than it was three years ago. Has LVG vastly improved the youth set up that SAF left behind? The first team squad could be considered better, and if so it's a very damning indictment on LVG.
The long term damage I potentially see is the impact of the feelossofee nonsense that I am so sick of hearing about. Players bought to fit a certain system that never got off the ground, good players not selected so that past it/underachieving players can have an automatic place in the team (the wrong players will ultimately choose to leave), players treated with contempt, the whole image and ethos of the club fundamentally undermined and altered which will have an impact on how potential future players view the club...I could go on and no doubt will but LVG (and Woodward who is also very much to blame) has in a very short time ripped up United and invented a newer, uglier, vulgar version.
You're painting a very abject picture without really taking a step back to draw on the positives.
We had a very successful manager for decades. This type of upheaval is to be expected because nothing would ever match those achievements. I think many took that for granted. But let's look through the squad; it is full of youth and with great potential. Of course that potential has not been realized but it is there which is why many fans are frustrated. Nonetheless, the framework is there to build upon.
Perhaps I've not been clear. The squad has potential and there are some good young players who could come through, I don't doubt that, although once again I give limited to no credit to the manager for that, he's not been there very long. Unless LVG gets his head out of his arse the potential will gradually dissipate.
What I would hate is throwing money around. That itself is killing the game. Look at how much Liverpool has thrown around over the past decade with very little result. I hope we don't become them.
Next manager must build on what we already have.. Shaw, Martial, Depay, Herrera, Lingard, De Gea, Morgan. That is half of the team that should sustain the club.
I personally don't think he can do much more than he already has done. He's made too many gaffs of the frontline. But I like the framework that he has built. If a more adventurous manager that understands the game can come in, then the next level should be good.
Playing on a Sunday has it's problems. On Saturday it's all happy, you've been **** and lost or drawn but then the next day we go and play **** and lose/draw as well. Football is **** at times!
Very true. And Liverpool are **** most of the time, so it's a double whammy for your lot!
There were a couple of Dippers on here preaching about how great Liverpool are to watch under Klopp. They must have meant that they were great to watch against City's reserve defence because apart from that it's largely been turgid **** (in the league anyway).
I think he means the Rafa Benitez framework of playing two DMs, telling your wingers to track back, and praying your one good striker doesn't get injured or out of form.
Although to be fair to Benitez his framework did manage to get him one 2nd place finish in six years, I doubt LVG would manage the same in the next six...
I'm amazed we haven't heard from Astro. I've checked their match thread and no sign of little champ. Probably crying into his cornflakes whilst burning his Liverpool bed spread.