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Chief said:
Read that last night.

Typical journo soundbites really, I feel he's stating the obvious in most respects and making some things up as he goes along to suit the 'argument'. Are we really supposed to believe Pep has made Fernandinho and Aguero better players? Really?

Has he ****, both were already excellent and in improving the players around him he has improved how the whole team performs. Stones hasn't improved, that's bullshit.
I grant you the other players mentioned certainly look improved but when you can spend £200 million on three full backs and a goalkeeper, a further £50 million on a playmaker specifically used in domestic cup competitions and then another £60 million on a centre half then how on earth can they all not appear to have improved?

I can't argue that Mourinho isn't currently having a similar effect on players he inherited/bought though with Lindelof being a particular puzzle.

As for having a director of football telling the manager how to play. I'll just leave that there................
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It's typical for journos nowadays - find a bandwagon, jump on it and try to look like you can explain it.

They were all spouting the same crap about Conte and Costa, Fabregas and Hazard last season. Not to mention Pellegrini and Aguero, Dzeko and Toure in 2014. Now the same journos are queuing up to stick the knife into Conte for mismanaging the players and making them worse.

Definitely agree about Mourinho, although I do think some of that is down to momentum and the psychological angle. We seen to have built a mental block around getting results in difficult games, and it's reflected in the amount of self sabotaging stupid mistakes.

For all his pedigree, Mourinho has never been all that good at the mental side imo - he has one trick and that's telling his players they are the best in the world. When that doesn't work he's out of ideas. Great tactician, but a poor motivator, and we do need someone to motivate the players and get them believing in themselves right now (cue gav81 and another call for Keane!)
 
The spread all the ties out over four consecutive weeks so that there are two matches on every Tuesday and Wednesday.

First leg for you lot this week, then first leg for us next week, then second leg for you the week after etc.

Probably the third season they've done it.
 
Chief said:
The spread all the ties out over four consecutive weeks so that there are two matches on every Tuesday and Wednesday.

First leg for you lot this week, then first leg for us next week, then second leg for you the week after etc.

Probably the third season they've done it.
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We might be a bit rusty with the whole CL thing.
 
Swarbs said:
Great tactician, but a poor motivator, and we do need someone to motivate the players and get them believing in themselves right now (cue gav81 and another call for Keane!)
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"My job is to motivate players, to push people and try and get them to another level. That will never change. I have been like that since I was a young player.”

~Roy Keane

:emoticon-0142-happy
 
pieguts said:
There's an element of luck in any, what is in effect, knockout competition. Of course Utd have never had any good fortune in any of there successes. <doh>
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Here's the difference. When United won the CL in '99 and '08, we also won the Premier League each season. We really were a team on top of our game that deserved the success. On the other hand, when Liverpool and Chelsea won the CL they finished 5th and 6th respectively. They weren't even the best teams in England, thus proving their CL wins to be a bit of a fluke.

<cheers>
 
gav81 said:
Here's the difference. When United won the CL in '99 and '08, we also won the Premier League each season. We really were a team on top of our game that deserved the success. On the other hand, when Liverpool and Chelsea won the CL they finished 5th and 6th respectively. They weren't even the best teams in England, thus proving their CL wins to be a bit of a fluke.

<cheers>
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What a lot of blinkered, Utd rose tinted specs nonsense. I'll leave it at that.
 
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