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Had we not been knocked out, we could have
Had we not been knocked out, we could have
Course they don't. If you hit the post you've missed the goal!
You can spout the stats all you like, but name me one save VDS had to make in that entire game, other than Lampard's goal after Essien's fluky double deflected shot, and Rio's header. Compare that to Cech with top drawer saves to deny Tevez twice and Carrick, and Terry clearing off the line from Giggs.
Says a lot about the balance of that game that your best chance of a winning goal came from our centre back. Hitting and hoping from 20+ yards out doesn't make for a balanced game, or did we edge the final in 09 by virtue of having one more shot than Barca and three more corners?
There was only one team going to win that match during the 120 minutes. But credit to Chelsea, your defence and keeper were well drilled enough to hold on for a draw and you snatched a goal, much like the other CL final you were dominated in![]()
Saying the two finals were similar is ludicrous.
In 2012 Bayern had 35 shots on goal and 20 corners to our 1. Bayern were an excellent side, a little better than United 08 and Chelsea 12 were significantly worse than Chelsea 08.
In 2008, United had 12 shots on goal to Chelsea's 24, and 5 corners to Chelsea's 8.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_UEFA_Champions_League_Final#Statistics
http://www.foxsports.com/soccer/sto...l-side-could-have-won-champions-league-021915
Rodgers: This Liverpool side could have won Champions League
Brendan Rodgers believes that his current Liverpool side could have won the Champions League if they had not been knocked out in December.
Rodgers' Reds picked up just five points in the group stages of the competition - failing to beat Basel at home in their final, must-win match - but after winning six of their last ten Premier League games, the Northern Irishman is bullish once again.
Liverpool now face Besiktas in the Europa League with Rodgers now suggesting that they would have competed in the knock-out stages of the premier competition.
"You just never know with the Champions League because sometimes it's not the best teams that win it. I think if you're in a cup competition that's sometimes the case, especially in those big European competitions," said Rodgers.
"I felt if we were maybe the team we had (last year) or were further down the road with this team then we'd have had a chance with the Champions League, that's the reality.
"If we were in it now with this group and the confidence we're showing and the way of working then we would have had a chance. Of course there's maybe other teams that are more experienced and better equipped with their squads.
"Certainly it wasn't the real Liverpool earlier on in the season. I was obviously hopeful that we could still be in the Champions League at this stage but it's not to be.
"We're still in a very good competition, we'll attack these games in this competition like we have those in the last few months.
"We'd put in two years of work building to get through to that stage and our objectives from me personally were very clear, we wanted to make the Champions League.
"Of course to arrive in there not having the team and the way of working to go and play that way, it was frustrating.
"But it's a great learning curve for us and I hope we can be in it for other years to come consistently and hopefully we can be a lot more stable and consistent with our performance."
Saying the two finals were similar is ludicrous.
In 2012 Bayern had 35 shots on goal and 20 corners to our 1. Bayern were an excellent side, a little better than United 08 and Chelsea 12 were significantly worse than Chelsea 08.
In 2008, United had 12 shots on goal to Chelsea's 24, and 5 corners to Chelsea's 8.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_UEFA_Champions_League_Final#Statistics
Didn't say they were similar, I said you were dominated in both of them, but will readily admit that Bayern were far more dominant that we were, and very unlucky to switch off with just a couple of minutes to go. But since you love the stats:
2008 final
Utd - 58% possession
Chelsea - 42% possession
2012 final
Bayern - 56% possession
Chelsea - 44% possession
2009 final
Barcelona - 51% possession
Utd - 49% possession
And I still haven't seen you produce any evidence of these four 'shots on target' the stats say you had. Or any save our keeper had to make.


Naughty Swarbs, you mentioned the 2008 Barca United tie as a"memorable United performance, now a tune change, it is the 2009 one.
But since you love your possession stats all of a sudden (having previously said they are not that important): in the first leg, Barca 72.8 per cent, United 27.2.
You must have borrowed our bus that night
Your keeper had at least three saves to make on 2008, they just all beat him but he was saved the post twice! You parked the bus and post that season!
If a team has four shots on goal and score four, in Swarbs' world, the keeper was not tested and had no saves to make![]()



If they weren`t on target why would he have to make a save![]()


Good question. My god, I'm completely wrong. VDS had 24 saves to make in that match. Thank **** Chelsea saved him by missing the target with 23 of them as they desperately shot on sight at any opportunity
Never thought Chelsea fans would be reduced to Liverpool's level of claiming that hitting the woodwork is anything other than missing the target. Next they'll be telling us that the 'law of averages' meant that one of those shots should have been a goal![]()
That my friend is conceptual thinking. Muppetfinder whatever his name was told me once.
They conceptually won the league that year because they hit the post loads and goalkeepers made loads of saves against them!
FFS, have you heard such ****e?
Awarded themselves the people champions trophy which sits proudly next to last years top at Christmas trophy and a load of dusty other stuff.
My favourite one was the 'law of averages' BS.
"According to the law of averages, we must start scoring goals soon because we keep hitting the post and bar. It's just bad luck"
No, the law of averages covers random events. Hitting the woodwork is not random, it is a direct result of being too ****e to hit the back of the net.
Same as all the BS about opposition keepers always playing a blinder against them. Yes, if you give the keeper ten shots that he can reach, he will probably save most of them. Whereas if you hit one or two top drawer strikes that he has no chance of saving, he won't. Rocket science it ain't.