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If we have to miss out on the top 4, let it be to Leicester. What a breath of fresh air they've been. Mahrez at £600k bargain of the millennium.

And anyway, if the turd United dish out every week finishes above us, we don't deserve top 4 at all.

if Leicester can qualify for the champions league then what the hell have we been doing for the last 5 years, its embarrassing really. full time 9 points behind Leicester, cant see us pulling that back, city and arsenal will finish well above us and they bit ive seen of everton makes me think they will finish above us too, eurpoa league again!!
 
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if Leicester can qualify for the champions league then what the hell have we been doing for the last 5 years, its embarrassing really. full time 9 points behind Leicester, cant see us pulling that back, city and arsenal will finish well above us and they bit ive seen of everton makes me think they will finish above us too, eurpoa league again!!


What happens to you when we really go on a bad run? :emoticon-0112-wonde
 
What happens to you when we really go on a bad run? :emoticon-0112-wonde

I don't care as much because the expectation level drops, I get pissed because we always seem to get to a certain point and then choke, people were talking about us being realistic title challengers, the last 3 league games proved we're million miles away.

I've no doubt if we'd have been in Leicester's position tonight we would have got beaten
 
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if Leicester can qualify for the champions league then what the hell have we been doing for the last 5 years, its embarrassing really. full time 9 points behind Leicester, cant see us pulling that back, city and arsenal will finish well above us and they bit ive seen of everton makes me think they will finish above us too, eurpoa league again!!
You clearly didn't see Everton play Norwich! Above us are Arsenal and City. I still think Leicester will struggle (in a way I hope not though). I don't see anyone better than us for 4th. Not Pool, not Utd and certainly not Everton. I think we are right in the mix.
 
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if Leicester can qualify for the champions league then what the hell have we been doing for the last 5 years, its embarrassing really. full time 9 points behind Leicester, cant see us pulling that back, city and arsenal will finish well above us and they bit ive seen of everton makes me think they will finish above us too, eurpoa league again!!

I admire your passion Kev. Maybe it's because I'm a child of the PL era - my first real season following Spurs being 93-94, that two things have defined my time as a fan:

1) A weariness to the point of nausea at how the game has rapidly become a corporate venture with the grass levels and fans suffering as a result.

2) With few and far between moments to really cheer as a Spurs fan over the past few decades, I've worked hard to simply enjoy the game for what it is as a neutral.

Leicester being top after 16 rounds of play ticks both of those boxes perfectly. It's a massive middle finger at Sky and their dearly beloved Big 5. It's also proof that ironically, increases in TV money, whilst utterly obscene when you walk around London and see how many people live in poverty and genuinely need help, is actually starting to solve the problems that it created. 5 years ago you wouldn't have seen Leicester. palace or bloody Watford challenging for Europe.

And because of this, the neutral fan in me rejoices for the good of the beautiful game. So what if the PL can't attract the same calibre of star as La Liga? So bananas. We have by a country mile the most exciting, unpredictable and roller coaster league in the world, and tonight's result epitomises that.
 
I totally understand YidoKev and his <steam>

I agree with him..we are still dithering, ****ing farting around...yet teams who survived relegation by the skin of their teeth..turn up season after and give it a right humdinger of a go..with both fists full.

Yet we dither. I really can't question this issue unless I question the personel. Yet at the same time, I have vowed to back our young guns and be ultra patient.

But what have Leicester managed to find within themselves that players costing 15 mill upwards, talked of as the next big thing in some cases etc etc...just cannot find?

At times I think football is hyperbole. It used to be my attitude whilst I was a player, albeit at a humble grass roots level...like many of us no doubt. No matter who we played..I always got the best out of myself by simply telling myself the other team is full of 11 men...and so are we. Seems like it is working for Leicester too...fair play to them.
 
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Mourinho

"Today we made two defensive mistakes and we pay. They were goals that I cannot accept. They are goals that were studied and we have practiced for three days. I feel bad because I don't understand how we can concede these goals."

On his misfiring attack: "At the moment it costs us a lot to score goals. Look through our numbers and it is clear it is difficult to score goals. Why? Because the players whose job it is to score goals aren't."

I don't know what Chelsea pay him but I think it may be time for a rebate.
 
It's certainly a crazy year. I still can't believe that Leicester will stay where they are. But credit to Ranieri for setting them up just right - confidence is doing the rest at the moment.

As for Spurs, we are a long way from the finished article, for sure. However, despite yesterday's dire performance, I still think we're on the right track, at last. No, we don't have the squad depth of our main rivals and so players who looked badly in need of a rest yesterday, aren't getting one.

I think M.P. Made mistakes yesterday. Dier was clearly way off his normal game, despite his goal. He should have been withdrawn early. Kane too looked dead on his feet, but due to some chronic lack of planning, we have no adequate replacement - Son clearly isn't it. I had hoped that Carroll might prove a useful back up to Eriksen, but on yesterday's evidence, he doesn't have the necessary physicality to make it at the top level.

Hopefully, the chequebook will be opened in Jan. We need a quality back up striker, as a minimum requirement.
 
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If Mourhino stays, I think Chelsea are in real danger of being relegated. If they get a new manager in - anyone will do - I think the change, in itself, could be enough to galvanise enough spirit in the squad to get it functioning enough to escape relegation, and even finish in the Europa spots.

Mourhino seems to have lost the ability to convince his team that it can win anything!
 
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