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Yid Vicious said:
The appeal with regular top 4 finishes is that it gives you the means to compete for trophies and take the club forward. With Arsenal that hasn't really happened so if you're asking would I rather one trophy over none but with slightly higher league finishes, I'd rather the trophy.
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Exactly. If constant top 4 finishes means more money and means to win trophies down the line then great but in issolation winning say the FA cup is better than finishing 4th ahead of 5th. Nobody will remember who came 4th 10 years on but they'll probably remember Wigan's cup win last year.

What doesn't make much sense as well is the teams in the E.L (but with little chance of getting top 4) fielding weak teams in the E.L to give them a better chance of a higher finish in the league; in order to qualify again for a competition they clearly don't care about trying to win!!
 
krome said:
would any spurs fans take an fa cup over regular top 4 finishes?
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yes!

chelsea - over 100 years of history said:
Exactly. If constant top 4 finishes means more money and means to win trophies down the line then great but in issolation winning say the FA cup is better than finishing 4th ahead of 5th. Nobody will remember who came 4th 10 years on but they'll probably remember Wigan's cup win last year.

What doesn't make much sense as well is the teams in the E.L (but with little chance of getting top 4) fielding weak teams in the E.L to give them a better chance of a higher finish in the league; in order to qualify again for a competition they clearly don't care about trying to win!!
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Exactly, this is why i was perfectly happy for us to have a decent crack at it last year. It may have dented our league form marginally (which is a shame considering we marginally lost out) but i would have LOVED to have won the EL

enigma said:
I wonder how many days it has been since spurs won a league title <whistle>
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Maybe you should count it out backwards in your head and let us know?
 
chelsea - over 100 years of history said:
What doesn't make much sense as well is the teams in the E.L (but with little chance of getting top 4) fielding weak teams in the E.L to give them a better chance of a higher finish in the league; in order to qualify again for a competition they clearly don't care about trying to win!!
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It makes sense at one level. You get cash by finishing higher in the league and some more by being in the EL. Winning the EL doesn't really affect your cash as much.
 
trouble with us is we don't have the resources to get top 4 and win a trophy. (not for about 30 years anyway)

Last season we had a great chance to win the EL, yet at the vital moment (Basle) we played Friedel and Gallas and effectively threw the tie away. We should have played our best available XI, if we were seriously intent on winning it, we didn't and paid the price.
 
Yid Vicious said:
The appeal with regular top 4 finishes is that it gives you the means to compete for trophies and take the club forward. With Arsenal that hasn't really happened so if you're asking would I rather one trophy over none but with slightly higher league finishes, I'd rather the trophy.
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Arsenal are a unique case though, you would expect Levi to use the extra money each season. If you were an established champs league club Moutinho and Damiao might well be in your squad...
 
Krome said:
Arsenal are a unique case though, you would expect Levi to use the extra money each season. If you were an established champs league club Moutinho and Damiao might well be in your squad...
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When we first got into the champions league we hardly improved our squad aside from the fabulous signing of VDV, we have never strengthened at the right team to help us try and sustain success so this is why every year we're always playing catch up and keep missing out on the champions league.

Even this year we break our transfer record twice and 2 weeks before the season starts we're faced with having Zeki Fryers at centre back.
 
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I'd like to that John chap over here, and then let him loose on the Chelsea board. He'd sort out Ozzie and Robbie(number of brain-cells=)102 in a trice.

Mind you, he'd be banned in double-quick time - far too witty.
 
Seems like we are interested in another of your players here in Cardiff...at this rate we will not know which team is yours and which is ours.

jck
 
jck200 said:
Seems like we are interested in another of your players here in Cardiff...at this rate we will not know which team is yours and which is ours.

jck
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it must be if capoue is coming in. Surely that's Parker and Hudd gone?
 
Now that Moyes has finally realised that Fabregas simply is not interested in joining United under him, he is set to plunder his own club, by making a joint bid for Fellani and Baines, according to latest press reports.

Of course, if both those players were to leave Everton, it would completely ruin their season.

Still, at least the press seems to have piped-down over at that "Bale to Real" bollocks.
 
Hoddle Is A God said:
Now that Moyes has finally realised that Fabregas simply is not interested in joining United under him, he is set to plunder his own club, by making a joint bid for Fellani and Baines, according to latest press reports.

Of course, if both those players were to leave Everton, it would completely ruin their season.

Still, at least the press seems to have piped-down over at that "Bale to Real" bollocks.



[ps: that should be "ruin" in the title of this post - why can't I edit it?]
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doesn't that (£30m reported) equate to £6-7m for Baines based on Fellaini's release clause? Not a chance
 
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