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Sucky said:
And there you go.

Var is a joke

Last night showed how big a fuking joke they are.

Does udogie need to snap sterling's legs in half to get a red for a two footed studs up lunge off the floor? Farcical when you consider Macalasters or jones i forget now, red against spurs.

Romero kicks out off the ball, no red.

Then funny enough both see red later.

Var is a joke

And Its being absolutely exposed this season
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There is zero chance that VAR will catch all the mistakes made by the onfield officials. I reckon it catches more than 80% of them though and that has the effect that the final league table is less affected by errors.
 
PowerSpurs said:
There is zero chance that VAR will catch all the mistakes made by the onfield officials. I reckon it catches more than 80% of them though and that has the effect that the final league table is less affected by errors.
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Var looks at that two footed studs up off the floor lunge and come up with a yellow.

Then it looks ar romero kicking someone off the ball and sees that as okay too.

Make that make sense?
 
PowerSpurs said:
There is zero chance that VAR will catch all the mistakes made by the onfield officials. I reckon it catches more than 80% of them though and that has the effect that the final league table is less affected by errors.
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The issue is the gaps

For example last night the linesmen deserve a lot of credit as they were on point for the tight offside calls against both sides, and VAR was certainly picking up some things that were missed like Romero's clattering - but because Bastard Son of Clattenburg was missing literally everything else the match turned into a farce which was impossible to take seriously, sort of like the Brazil vs Colombia match at the 2014 World Cup
 
humanbeingincroydon said:
The issue is the gaps

For example last night the linesmen deserve a lot of credit as they were on point for the tight offside calls against both sides, and VAR was certainly picking up some things that were missed like Romero's clattering - but because Bastard Son of Clattenburg was missing literally everything else the match turned into a farce which was impossible to take seriously, sort of like the Brazil vs Colombia match at the 2014 World Cup
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Or the Croatia game at the 2006 World cup when Graham Poll gave a player 3 yellow cards before sending him off.
 
Sucky said:
Var looks at that two footed studs up off the floor lunge and come up with a yellow.

Then it looks ar romero kicking someone off the ball and sees that as okay too.

Make that make sense?
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well on the Udogie oneall var did was decide there was no clear and obvious error . I thought he was very ;lucky as it was so dangerous .
anyway i told you var would be dreadful so i'm not surprised apart from when they don't even know what they are checking / what the var decision was :emoticon-0181-fubar
 
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Bodinki said:
Or the Croatia game at the 2006 World cup when Graham Poll gave a player 3 yellow cards before sending him off.
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The worst thing about that match is people remember the three yellows, but forget the numerous other things Poll ****ed up in that match
- Mark Viduka was practically suplexed to the ground in the area, but Poll didn't award a penalty
- Croatia conceded a penalty and saw a player booked for blatant handball...the first time the player did it, the second time Poll ignored it
- Australia's equaliser was offside
- At one point there were two balls on the pitch, yet he didn't stop play
- Poll blew the final whistle when Australia were about to score a stoppage time winner

I wonder why there's been World Cups without a single English referee...?
 
humanbeingincroydon said:
- At one point there were two balls on the pitch, yet he didn't stop play
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That's not strictly against the rules, depending on the situation.
From Law 5:
  • an extra ball, other object or animal enters the field of play during the match, the referee must:
    • stop play (and restart with a dropped ball) only if it interferes with play unless the ball is going into the goal and the interference does not prevent a defending player playing the ball, the goal is awarded if the ball enters the goal (even if contact was made with the ball) unless unless the interference was by the attacking team
    • allow play to continue if it does not interfere with play and have it removed at the earliest possible opportunity
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
That's not strictly against the rules, depending on the situation.
From Law 5:
  • an extra ball, other object or animal enters the field of play during the match, the referee must:
    • stop play (and restart with a dropped ball) only if it interferes with play unless the ball is going into the goal and the interference does not prevent a defending player playing the ball, the goal is awarded if the ball enters the goal (even if contact was made with the ball) unless unless the interference was by the attacking team
    • allow play to continue if it does not interfere with play and have it removed at the earliest possible opportunity
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The annoying thing with this one is how there's plenty of written reports of this being one of Poll's ****ups in the game, yet I can't seem to find video evidence of the incident anywhere

Unsurprisingly, the video on FIFA's Youtube channel of the match only has Simunic getting sent off, but doesn't show the first two yellows...
 
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I was thinking how Shankly's Liverpool would have liked VAR in their day? Half the team would have been in the dressing roon by half time!
 
Sucky said:
Var looks at that two footed studs up off the floor lunge and come up with a yellow.

Then it looks ar romero kicking someone off the ball and sees that as okay too.

Make that make sense?
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I didn't think either onfield decision was a clear and obvious error. Udogie was well out of control with his lunge but he was not going directly towards Sterling so arguably not serious foul play. I don't think VAR would have corrected a red to a yellow either though. Romero kicked out but not in a forceful way and should have been at least yellow carded.
If VAR hadn't been there then the first of those decisions would have been exactly the same but Sterling's handball goal would have stood. Since the match would then have started with a kickoff rather than a free kick none of the rest of the first half would have occurred.
I think its better to have 80% of the errors corrected rather than none.
 
PowerSpurs said:
I didn't think either onfield decision was a clear and obvious error. Udogie was well out of control with his lunge but he was not going directly towards Sterling so arguably not serious foul play. I don't think VAR would have corrected a red to a yellow either though. Romero kicked out but not in a forceful way and should have been at least yellow carded.
If VAR hadn't been there then the first of those decisions would have been exactly the same but Sterling's handball goal would have stood. Since the match would then have started with a kickoff rather than a free kick none of the rest of the first half would have occurred.
I think its better to have 80% of the errors corrected rather than none.
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Stopped reading after that bit.


Ridiculous <laugh>
 
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