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Treble said:
Now, that, is very much my thinking. Or at least has often been something I've been conscious of / questioned, throughout my life.

I'm a person of science but I've always found that there's a misnomer or assumption that science explains the why, whereas I've often found many of those why's are not why's at all, but just another 'how'.

I look at photosynthesis in plants for example and my immediate response to chlorophyll is why? Lots of explanation of how it works, but why that particular concept?

Same with something as basic as a cat digging up earth, taking a dump and covering it up. Why? Someone might claim it's genetic memory or something. Sounds like another term for supernatural to me. Same with turtles coming onto sand to lay their eggs under the sand. Too many why's unanswered for me
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All of the questions you pose here are answered by evolution. People often think evolution means getting better when in fact it just means change. When you consider that most of the animal species that ever lived are now extinct it shows it's not about improvement as we understand it and most of the time (if not all of the time) it leads to extinction. What if anything this is all about is beyond human comprehension. The analogy I always use is to imagine a fly crawling over the bonnet of a car. What chance has it got to understand what is beneath it's feet? That's us crawling over our Earth which floats in the universe. No chance for us to understand I'm afraid. Being with people you love, that's the answer to our existence. Just enjoy what you can and don't blame Spurs for everything.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
Who's completely sure that no gods exist?
I've never even heard a coherent description of one, so that'd be a start.

I'd suggest that it's far more arrogant to not only claim that there's a supreme being, but to understand what it wants and feels.
Up there with the smug, fence-sitting supremacy of the Lib Dems of religion, agnostics.
I don't believe in them.
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That's the thing about God(s)
Nobody can prove they exist and nobody can prove they don't.
For all our technological advances, people still believe in a deity that doesn't reveal him/her/itself - but does miraculous things.
And this is seen as totally rational, even though it can't be explained.
But in the grand scheme of things, it's insignificant when compared to the big question. Will de Jong join Utd?
 
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littleDinosaurLuke said:
That's the thing about God(s)
Nobody can prove they exist and nobody can prove they don't.
For all our technological advances, people still believe in a deity that doesn't reveal him/her/itself - but does miraculous things.
And this is seen as totally rational, even though it can't be explained.
But in the grand scheme of things, it's insignificant when compared to the big question. Will de Jong join Utd?
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I think that we have to go to the scientific approach to answer that question.
We have no good evidence to suggest that Utd can sign good players any more.
That suggests that you either won't sign him or he's not a good player.
As Richard Dawkins once said: "Science. It works, bitches."
 
No, god is about to fly to Korea. Have you tried Italian food and wine? GOD must be ITALIAN
 
The player nicked by the met police for rape was first reported to the old bill last summer. The allegation was that he raped a woman abroad.
The old bill claim they informed the club at the time.
They (the old bill) couldn't investigate cos it was abroad.

The club have refused to comment.

Grim for the victim that it's gone on so long.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ed-player-knew-of-rape-allegation-last-autumn
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
The signing?
A lot of clubs are bringing back experienced older players and putting them in the U21s.
Utd have done it with Paul McShane, for example:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_McShane_(footballer)

They do some coaching and give the youngsters pointers on the pitch, too.
I think it can be a very useful tool, if you pick the right player to do it.
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Still doesn't explain how Spearing looks like he's in his 60s
 
BrunelGunner said:
I think, with all the Abrahamic faiths, there has been violence and warfare committed in the names of those religions and for various reasons. As I've said before though. A lot of it, for me, is really to do with foreign policy, totalitarianism, colonialism and imperialism - especially across the Middle East and Africa. I've seen violence be rationalised in secular regimes just as I have under religious ones, but a lot of this has transpired in more modern times i.e. 19th/20th Century and beyond - which is conveniently where a lot of western expansionism occurred. The religion/secular distinction is a fairly modern phenomenon. There were never issues on the scale we see now in previous centuries based off religion in isolation. Which is why I say people and their thirst for power is more of an issue than the religions themselves.
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The point that the greatest evil done to the most people has been by the elites of predominantly Christian countries is a good one: from the genocide of most of the western hemisphere's population to half a millenium of strangling Asia and Africa to death via naval-based exploitation.

It's significant that the means Henry the Navigator found to finance the snowball of naval expansion was slavery.
 
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