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Dier Hard said:
If I’m honest I think we’re a fair way off of City and Pool. Whilst City have their backing they’re going to be almost impossible to catch unless a team nails it at recruitment over many windows like Pool have done under Edwards and Klopp, you then also need the manager like Klopp to make it work. Pool are now in a position though where they’re leagues above most of Europe thanks to that recruitment and so if they maintain it with more good signings (like Diaz) then it’ll be hard to overtake them.

Chelsea could be caught, depending on how their eventual new owners go about things. They could lose Rudiger on a free who’s been one of the top CBs in the Prem since he came, Silva isn’t getting younger, Christensen is also leaving on a free supposedly to Barca, whilst Azpi could go too with just a year left on his deal. That’s the whole heart of their defence either leaving or ageing and it won’t be easy to replace all that quality so quickly which could open up a chance to catch them, albeit it’s still slim I’d say.

Getting top four will be huge for us this season as it likely helps keep Kane and gives Conte/ Paratici a wider pool of players to target. I think fourth place could be a real battle over the next few years though between us, Arsenal, Utd and possibly West Ham/ Leicester. Sooner or later one team needs to get it right to secure it long term, I hope that’s us, certainly more optimistic with Paratici and Conte than I was in the last couple years.
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I think we have a manager who can run a club with the respect and authority of a Klopp…I’m sure you agree. Conte is top 5 in the world…not a bad starting place for Spurs.

We got to nail recruitment…so far so good but one window was never going to be enough. Back the manager in the summer and I think we giving them teams a good game…beating the rest needs solving with squad quality…we have the numbers we don’t have the quality. Paratici has already proven that the talent is out there.

Top 4 is massive for us for every reason bar trying to win it next season imo…which is fair enough…we need the money. Next season though…I don’t think Conte goes for top 4 as an aim…he goes for the title. It’s a fact Tottenham Hotspur need to come to terms with…I don’t think Conte is here to get top 4 and maybe a league cup. I’m just going by what I have seen of his career…just don’t see why he would buy into our MO over convincing the hierarchy that they must buy into his. U like Jose…this man is at his peak so we really need to step up and I think we could be right up there again pretty quick.
 
To go for the title requires a lot of signings and for them to all be right. Spurs still have players in the first 11 that aren’t good enough to be part of title winning teams especially in defence.

Would the board give him huge money to overhaul the entire defence? I can’t see that happening personally
 
District Line said:
City
Liverpool

Chelsea

Tottenham (under Conte)
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If Chelsky do not beat the Goons tonight, then at best,
after 32 games of the season gone, they would be
three wins better than Spurs.

For a Sugga Daddy FC and a Spurs having manager flux,
you are at the same level as Spurs. In fact I contend that
given the former + you are not on kindred pts with the top 2,
you are a PL failure this season.
 
KingHotspur said:
To go for the title requires a lot of signings and for them to all be right. Spurs still have players in the first 11 that aren’t good enough to be part of title winning teams especially in defence.

Would the board give him huge money to overhaul the entire defence? I can’t see that happening personally
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In order to become PL title prospects, id it require loadsa
money for Lesta 2016 and Spurs 2016 + 2017 ??

The "tick box" list to do a "when the stars are right"
on this front is not huge :

- A decent manager
.
- A squad who buys into the coaching/match regime of the manager,
and commits themselves 100% on the pitch.

- A squad that includes nurtured as well as purchased talent.

- A squad whose value is greater than the "sum of the parts"

- One or two exceptional players
 
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Spurlock said:
I think we have a manager who can run a club with the respect and authority of a Klopp…I’m sure you agree. Conte is top 5 in the world…not a bad starting place for Spurs.

We got to nail recruitment…so far so good but one window was never going to be enough. Back the manager in the summer and I think we giving them teams a good game…beating the rest needs solving with squad quality…we have the numbers we don’t have the quality. Paratici has already proven that the talent is out there.

Top 4 is massive for us for every reason bar trying to win it next season imo…which is fair enough…we need the money. Next season though…I don’t think Conte goes for top 4 as an aim…he goes for the title. It’s a fact Tottenham Hotspur need to come to terms with…I don’t think Conte is here to get top 4 and maybe a league cup. I’m just going by what I have seen of his career…just don’t see why he would buy into our MO over convincing the hierarchy that they must buy into his. U like Jose…this man is at his peak so we really need to step up and I think we could be right up there again pretty quick.
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Without a doubt Conte is top five, strong argument for top three.

I think if we back Conte and Paratici we could definitely be a favourite for top four, possibly even top three but I think for us to catch City or Pool we need a lot of things to go our way. It took a few years for Klopp to get Pool roaring and it’ll do the same if not more for Conte as City and Pool are so far ahead at the moment it makes it tougher for Conte to catch them. I reckon we’d need amazing recruitment over 2-3 windows at the least and for them to slip up a little in order to overtake - and that’s on top of us keeping key players and Conte himself.
 
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Dier Hard said:
Without a doubt Conte is top five, strong argument for top three.

I think if we back Conte and Paratici we could definitely be a favourite for top four, possibly even top three but I think for us to catch City or Pool we need a lot of things to go our way.
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No you don't.

The Poool slipped last season to a large degree due to the injury to VVD.
That is only ONE thing.

The question then becomes whether Spurs could perform to the
level to at least get 70 pts,. The answer for the previous two seasons
(and possibly this one) is no.

If you continually do what would be deemed the prerequisites
in even attempting to "catch" , then by definition you need a lot
fewer "things to go your way" .
 
The RDBD said:
No you don't.

The Poool slipped last season to a large degree due to the injury to VVD.
That is only ONE thing.

The question then becomes whether Spurs could perform to the
level to at least get 70 pts,. The answer for the previous two seasons
(and possibly this one) is no.

If you continually do what would be deemed the prerequisites
in even attempting to "catch" , then by definition you need a lot
fewer "things to go your way" .
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This is a bit of a fallacy as we coped perfectly well without VVD and then still fine without Gomez but we fell off a cliff when Matip got crocked as well .
 
Solid_Air 2 said:
This is a bit of a fallacy as we coped perfectly well without VVD and then still fine without Gomez but we fell off a cliff when Matip got crocked as well .
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So what do you contend that the Poool pts/GF/GA tally
would have been last season, if only VVD was out as was ??
 
Dier Hard said:
If I’m honest I think we’re a fair way off of City and Pool. Whilst City have their backing they’re going to be almost impossible to catch unless a team nails it at recruitment over many windows like Pool have done under Edwards and Klopp, you then also need the manager like Klopp to make it work. Pool are now in a position though where they’re leagues above most of Europe thanks to that recruitment and so if they maintain it with more good signings (like Diaz) then it’ll be hard to overtake them.

Chelsea could be caught, depending on how their eventual new owners go about things. They could lose Rudiger on a free who’s been one of the top CBs in the Prem since he came, Silva isn’t getting younger, Christensen is also leaving on a free supposedly to Barca, whilst Azpi could go too with just a year left on his deal. That’s the whole heart of their defence either leaving or ageing and it won’t be easy to replace all that quality so quickly which could open up a chance to catch them, albeit it’s still slim I’d say.

Getting top four will be huge for us this season as it likely helps keep Kane and gives Conte/ Paratici a wider pool of players to target. I think fourth place could be a real battle over the next few years though between us, Arsenal, Utd and possibly West Ham/ Leicester. Sooner or later one team needs to get it right to secure it long term, I hope that’s us, certainly more optimistic with Paratici and Conte than I was in the last couple years.
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Anyone can be - 3 years ago Chelsea and Arsenal were contesting the Europa League Final whilst Liverpool and Tottenham were in the CL. Since then all four clubs have gone along different paths.

There is mass uncertainty around Chelsea, United and to a lesser extent Tottenham.
 
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The RDBD said:
If Chelsky do not beat the Goons tonight, then at best,
after 32 games of the season gone, they would be
three wins better than Spurs.

For a Sugga Daddy FC and a Spurs having manager flux,
you are at the same level as Spurs. In fact I contend that
given the former + you are not on kindred pts with the top 2,
you are a PL failure this season.
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It depends on the context. Chelsea have juggled multiple competitions and battled with Covid with no games called off. This season has fallen somewhat below expectations but there are extenuating circumstances - our form has been as good as the top 2 apart from the December-January period when we had to juggle PL, CL, FA Cup, CWC and League Cup. That is partly our fault due to poor squad management but it is a factor, especially in a condensed season.
 
Forgive the poxy quality and goon victimhood, but I struggled to find this:
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What exactly does a Liverpool player have to do to get sent off now?
Irrelevant to the result, of course, but they're just immune to red cards at the moment.
Fernandes responded with this attempt to hurt some twat: https://streamgg.com/v/x6an391n
 
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District Line said:
It depends on the context. ....
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The "context" is that a Sugga Daddy FC should be
held to far higher expectations than a Norwich,

Or do you want 'you're bitter cos we're winning stuff
and you're not' for thee, but not 'a serious failure
for all the money we have' for me ??
 
PleaseNotPoll said:
Forgive the poxy quality and goon victimhood, but I struggled to find this:
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What exactly does a Liverpool player have to do to get sent off now?
Irrelevant to the result, of course, but they're just immune to red cards at the moment.
Fernandes responded with this attempt to hurt some twat: https://streamgg.com/v/x6an391n
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They should have had 2 red cards against us and got zero. Meanwhile Reece James was sent off for a handball that took two ricochets off his lower body before striking his hand.

Milner should have been sent off against City at the Anfield but wasn't, Sterling's goal against them wasn't anymore offside than the goal Watford scored against Brentford.
 
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PleaseNotPoll said:
Forgive the poxy quality and goon victimhood, but I struggled to find this:
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What exactly does a Liverpool player have to do to get sent off now?
Irrelevant to the result, of course, but they're just immune to red cards at the moment.
Fernandes responded with this attempt to hurt some twat: https://streamgg.com/v/x6an391n
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What do you mean "at the moment"? It's pretty much standard practice. Apparently they've averaged one red a season under clippity.
 
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