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I don't understand. Standing down implies there was something wrong with the takeover. So why was it allowed to go ahead? Either it was above board or it wasn't.
So bent I'm surprised they're not related to Darren.
Corruption in football?
Blimey, that'd be a first.
Blimey, that'd be a first.
Chelsea looking to top us and Arsenal in terms of ripping off fans next season by tripling the price of some of their season tickets in the west stand to £3,900.
Wonder how many will actually renew theirs?
Shows how out of touch clubs are though, the prices have been hiked essentially because there’s new bars and big screens plus some padded seating… Yeah I’m sure people will love paying over £2,000 more (original cost is supposedly £1,250) for their ticket just for that and watching the actual football is just a bonus so long as they sit on a nice seat and have a sparkly bar to go and get a beer from
That club's ridiculous spending on transfers and wages has driven up the cost of football for everyone and part of me feels "**** 'em, their fans should have seen this coming"...the problem with that is, that this just adds fuel to the fire. It won't be long before Spurs and Arsenal start comparing their prices to this increased level and when they do, prices are only going to go up again at those clubs, as well.
Do Chelsea expect their existing fans to pay that kind of increase or do they not care because, being in London and having bought significant success, they don't need to care? They can sell out to tourists, who will spend far greater sums of money on a one off basis, when compared to a ST holder struggling to afford a whole season. We're 'legacy fans' and we're not wanted at the owners' party anymore, as the owners get on with forming the ESL and counting the lolly it generates.
We're already losing fans now and whilst their tickets are being picked up by day trippers/ newer fans, eventually that'll also start waning if the football doesn't improve.
If Spurs then ever try doubling/ tripling prices from what they are now, especially whilst the football isn't giving value for money, the players will start wondering if we're back in lockdown again.
FA has proved over and over again that its priority is adding as much money as it can to the PL. When has it ever shown itself to be supportive of the fans? English football has long needed legislation to reign in the unfettered greed of the FA. They have created a league awash with money and who benefits? The players have done well as have the Managers. The owners have carte blanche to create as much money as they can. Where are the fans in all this? Oh we are told they get to watch all these star players from all over the world. We have fans discussing transfer fees as if this is part of being a fan! Promoted perhaps by the games people play that are football related.
Football fans need to question their own part in supporting this money train.
Football fans need to question their own part in supporting this money train.
I think that the process has already happened, but in reverse.
Us and the Woolwich already have an extensive range of hospitality seats with the expected bump in price.
Chelsea don't really have the facilities and haven't been able to build a new stadium, so they've cut corners.
Premium price for a relatively normal seat.
Certainly, Arsenal and Spurs started the last round, but the upward cycle will continue to happen. Chelsea see us and Arsenal adding a premium price option and come up with a £4k version, which is a bit **** but will sell out in the end. In turn, we look at our pricing structure and view it as under priced compared to Chelsea's poorer imitation and look to increase our prices, as and when circumstances allow.
It's what happened in transfer fees and player wages. As soon as someone ups the ceiling price, everything else readjusts. It doesn't happen overnight, but it does happen eventually. World class players being worth £100m lead to ordinary ones costing £50m, which leads to World Class ones being worth £150m...and so on.
If Newcastle,City etc have Billionaire owners who are expected to buy most of the best UEFA players between them.....why would they want to hit their fans financially? If I was a billionaire owner of Spurs,I'd let the fans in free and charge the players for ****ty performances!!!!
It’s supply and demand though.
If nobody was willing to pay these prices, clubs wouldn’t charge them.
Football has become fashionable for people with money - who once would have shunned it when it was seen as a working man’s game.
The irony is that clubs could make it cheap to attend to watch matches, if they chose to, because most of their income is derived from TV and commercial revenues.
If nobody was willing to pay these prices, clubs wouldn’t charge them.
Football has become fashionable for people with money - who once would have shunned it when it was seen as a working man’s game.
The irony is that clubs could make it cheap to attend to watch matches, if they chose to, because most of their income is derived from TV and commercial revenues.
Our quarter final v West Ham is £25 per ticket...3 days before Xmas.
Seems like a realisation that money is a bit tight for a lot of fans may have got through
Seems like a realisation that money is a bit tight for a lot of fans may have got through
Our most expensive premium seats are £15k per season. The same seats for the NFL matches were £800 each which is slightly more expensive
Premium seats at Spurs bring in about £40m of revenue. The new stadium wouldn’t be viable without them. The other 56,000 seats bring in about the same amount as far as I can see. So the richest fans are paying 10 to 20 times what the poorest ones are paying. That’s probably more progressive than our tax system
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English football for you, Smithy.
Whilst us and Arsenal top the lot in terms of ripping off supporters, the whole of the Premier League could easily lower their prices to help fans out. They just unfortunately choose to exploit the loyalty.
95% of European clubs put the English to shame and it’s also no surprise that their atmosphere’s are generally far more louder and more passionate than what you see in England, the working class aren’t priced out of being able to support their team.
I think there would be bedlam if tickets were free - you'd struggle to allocate tickets. Basic supply and demand suggests you should charge enough so that 61k people would want to watch (and that would be a very different number v Arsenal compared to v Norwich) but as that is not possible, you need a clear structure. Financial fair play means you need to be self sufficient to a degree, rather than just have the owners finance the whole shooting match. So the money raised from ticketing is very important.
Fair enough.I'd charge the fan 10 pounds a head and give it to charity.
I can remember the "old days" when our fans started lining up at 4am on a Sunday morning for tickets,freezing to death!!!! They couldn't care less about fans then or today!....I remember being given 4 ballot cards for a chance to get a ticket for the 1961 Cup Final.......and still couldn't win one. (That one still ranckles!) Some non fans got one who'd never seen a game in their life!
I can remember the "old days" when our fans started lining up at 4am on a Sunday morning for tickets,freezing to death!!!! They couldn't care less about fans then or today!....I remember being given 4 ballot cards for a chance to get a ticket for the 1961 Cup Final.......and still couldn't win one. (That one still ranckles!) Some non fans got one who'd never seen a game in their life!
By the way.I lost out for the 1962 Final too but as I was an Employee at Hackney Greyhound Stadium,I was given one by my boss because the stadiums were allocated 2 tickets for the Final.The seat was about 30,000 feet behind the Royal Box full of non fans. When Spurs got the first goal I jumped off my seat yelling "goal" while a couple of hundred people thought I'd gone mad!!!!
The prices in England are excessive and I think that countries like Germany excel for value in that area.
Barca having 65,000 empty seats for league games suggests that there are worse offenders, though.
Yeah Germany are by far the best for prices, especially in terms of a major European league.
I wonder if the Nou Camp having empty seats is partly to do with Messi going though? I could swear I read on Twitter back when he left that there was a big drop in renewals, though I can't remember how much exactly.
For some reason I can't seem to find a general list of current La Liga season ticket prices like I usually can for other leagues. Most recent one I've found is from an AS article in 2017 so I'd imagine prices have risen since then, as of then though Barca's cheapest was €167 and most expensive was €1097.