Rival watch
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The weird assumption that Newcastle will suddenly win the league next season is what gets me
Do people not remember The Thanksin Shirawatra Team following the Middlesbrough template of thinking one Brazilian player would balance out the various journeymen padding out the team, a model they tweaked by paying grossly over the odds for several of those journeymen and putting them on huge wages? Or, more recently, remember just last summer when there was a widespread belief in the Spurs fanbase that Everton would be routinely finishing in the CL positions because they had a Middle Eastern billionaire in charge, a sentiment which ballooned when they signed James Rodriguez?
Having a metric ****ton of money doesn't equate success. If it did, Barnsley would be...well first of all a Premier League club, and secondly a Premier League club regularly finishing above clubs their owners have more money than such as Liverpool and Man Utd
Do people not remember The Thanksin Shirawatra Team following the Middlesbrough template of thinking one Brazilian player would balance out the various journeymen padding out the team, a model they tweaked by paying grossly over the odds for several of those journeymen and putting them on huge wages? Or, more recently, remember just last summer when there was a widespread belief in the Spurs fanbase that Everton would be routinely finishing in the CL positions because they had a Middle Eastern billionaire in charge, a sentiment which ballooned when they signed James Rodriguez?
Having a metric ****ton of money doesn't equate success. If it did, Barnsley would be...well first of all a Premier League club, and secondly a Premier League club regularly finishing above clubs their owners have more money than such as Liverpool and Man Utd
I think that Newcastle will try to mimic the Man City way of doing things and it'll take a little time.
They'll address the infrastructure and youth system, while bringing in someone to run things.
A DoF and manager with the promise of financial backing.
Luis Campos is out of work at the moment and could suit them well.
Maybe pair him up with one of the bigger names that are out of work too?
They'll address the infrastructure and youth system, while bringing in someone to run things.
A DoF and manager with the promise of financial backing.
Luis Campos is out of work at the moment and could suit them well.
Maybe pair him up with one of the bigger names that are out of work too?
This feels like a Man City/Chelsea buyout though, the money the new owners have is ridiculous and by the sounds of it, they’re going to splash the cash
I assume they’ll look to build a project initially. They have a lot of players they’ll want to shift and we all know how difficult that is, albeit according to some Newcastle supporting mates of mine their contracts situation isn’t as bad as ours was the last few years. Honestly think they could do a lot worse than throwing money at Potter, giving it a few years for him to get good football out of a revamped squad, then pick up whichever mega manager they want after that when the foundations have been built. Like all rich clubs they’ll want to strengthen from a position of strength and avoid losing momentum like we did after peaking under Poch.
They won’t win the league next season obviously, these things take time. But it’s not a wild assumption that they’ll be in the CL within the next 3 years or so, and by then they’ll be a serious threat.
How many times have we heard that sentence, though?
The Glazers buying Man Utd was supposed to be that, yet it wasn't
Stan Kroenke buying Arsenal was supposed to be that, but it wasn't
Shad Kahn buying Fulham was supposed to be that, but bloody hell it wasn't to the point his son's doing a far better job running a wrestling company
The fact that there's talk online about who Newcastle's Robinho signing will be does underline the point: Shinawatra's cash was spunked on Roque Santa Cruz and Robinho and they did **** all in the league, and that didn;t change until they were on their second billionaire who was following the Red Bull template instead of the Middlesbrough one
They weren't supposed to be, though. This lot will chuck money around, not try to make it.
I suspect they'll try and nick some of the decent freebies available in the summer and miss out on most.
They'll pick sensible, solid signings as well and make a lot of them.
Some random Saudi club will probably bid £50m each for Dwight Gayle and Joelinton, too.
Yeah there'll 100% be a project and as PNP has mentioned they'll likely mimic how City went about things under the Sheikh with regards to infrastructure, academy, DoF etc.
Potter would make a lot of sense - to many teams in fact, us included - but I also wouldn't be surprised if Newcastle target Conte soon. Give him an unlimited budget and he'd more or less guarantee a league title inside 3 years.
These owners are apparently 10x richer than City's (fuuuuucking hell) so I have a feeling they'll be coming in quite bullish with their project.
Trust me this is a game changer. Newcastle will gatecrash the elite on the pitch in a few years easily
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And they kill journalists. Our next match reports should be... interesting.
Yeah I agree, they just have to survive this season first though. I bear Newcastle no ill will but it would be hilarious if they got relegated after this. Big signings are rare in January for anyone, no matter how rich, so it’ll be interesting to see who they get immediately if they remove Bruce, which I imagine they will, because whoever it is will have to stay up with mostly this squad.
After this season it depends on how much they think they can revamp the squad in the summer as to who they can, and should, get as a manager. If they think they can get lots of players out then I have no doubt the money is there to spend and a Conte-type becomes a good idea. But the difference between us when Poch came in and that Newcastle squad is that we had a lot of underperforming players who were actually very good, and some gems in the academy. Newcastle have neither - at least I’m struggling to think who would interest a top 6 team in their squad (maybe Dubravka? Saint-Maximin? Almiron?) and I’m obviously not clued up on their academy prospects, to be fair. But still. And shifting 10+ players in and out is a mammoth task.
So maybe better to survive this season, build over 2-3 years under a manager like Potter or Poch (who can build a team greater than the sum of its parts) and then once the foundations are built, shoot for one of the true elite.
Uh oh, the Daily Mail is about to write another hit piece
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That wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Crown Prince bin Salman is the chairman of the PIF. You know, the investment fund that promised very sincerely they wouldn't use state funds for purchases or sponsorship? The football association and premier league executive were so busy grabbing the wads of notes being handed to them under the table, they forgot to stop and think if such a promise can even be kept if the bloke who runs the country is the same person as the bloke who runs the fund.
This is another nail in football's coffin, that's all there is to it.
I'm pleased for Toon fans as they've been through more crap than most over the past 14 years of Ashley, but it is another nail.
I had to read some of this twice and still (shouldn't be surprised that I) find it hard to believe.
The PL appear to be using that Citeh logic with this one (you know that Citeh and Etihad are completely different entities). But in this case it is almost worse. Did they really say that if it was the Saudi Arabian state that was purchasing Newcastle they couldn't, but since it is the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund that's ok. I mean, I didn't hear that wrong did I?
What total ****ing corrupt ****ing **** morons.
And the Geordies are happy to be getting all this blood money? Because the Saudi's are better than Ashley?
The PL appear to be using that Citeh logic with this one (you know that Citeh and Etihad are completely different entities). But in this case it is almost worse. Did they really say that if it was the Saudi Arabian state that was purchasing Newcastle they couldn't, but since it is the Saudi Arabian Public Investment Fund that's ok. I mean, I didn't hear that wrong did I?
What total ****ing corrupt ****ing **** morons.
And the Geordies are happy to be getting all this blood money? Because the Saudi's are better than Ashley?
Yes, you heard right.
No, you shouldn't be surprised.
Honestly if Hitler rose from the dead and put in a bid for West Ham, Bullingham, Masters et al. wouldn't bat an eyelid.
Like I said earlier, fans don’t care who owns their club as long as they will invest silly money.
They already sing about him, to be fair.
r/coys has convinced themselves that Newcastle will have Bayern's starting xi on the pitch when we play them in two weeks
I don't think their journalist-decapitating new owner has bribed the Premier League enough for that to happen, somehow
I don't think their journalist-decapitating new owner has bribed the Premier League enough for that to happen, somehow
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