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Two goals for Aaron Mooy. Wolves shouldn't have conceded either.
He looks like a young version of Huddersfield fan Patrick Stewart.
Huddersfield set to go 14th but only two points above bottom side Fulham.
 
Two goals for Aaron Mooy. Wolves shouldn't have conceded either.
He looks like a young version of Huddersfield fan Patrick Stewart.
Huddersfield set to go 14th but only two points above bottom side Fulham.

He looks like the generic template before you start to create a character on a computer game. Good player though and good to see Huddersfield get out of the relegation zone for now. Wagner has them playing some good stuff at times and on a small budget.

Who do we want to see go down this season? I don't have a problem with Fulham as a club but replacing so many players who got them up leaves a sour taste so I wouldn't mind them going back down.Hopefully West Ham will join them but other than that I like most of the other clubs.
 
I don't think Mark Hughes belongs in the PL at whichever club he coaches and it's been downhill all the way since his departure from City. I wouldn't mind seeing that old tanker Newcastle sink but other than that I have no other preferences.
 
He looks like the generic template before you start to create a character on a computer game. Good player though and good to see Huddersfield get out of the relegation zone for now. Wagner has them playing some good stuff at times and on a small budget.

Who do we want to see go down this season? I don't have a problem with Fulham as a club but replacing so many players who got them up leaves a sour taste so I wouldn't mind them going back down.Hopefully West Ham will join them but other than that I like most of the other clubs.
I don't know who I want to go down but I fear for Cardiff and two from Fulham, Southampton and Huddersfield.
 
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Who do we want to see go down this season? I don't have a problem with Fulham as a club but replacing so many players who got them up leaves a sour taste so I wouldn't mind them going back down.Hopefully West Ham will join them but other than that I like most of the other clubs.
West Scam - Not least because The Pornographer's house of cards would rapidly collapse once they hit the Championship
Cardiff - It's always fun to see Colin ****er teams get relegated
Expensive Stoke - It's about time Steptonho got a team relegated, after all...
 
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I'd not miss Burnley and losing a London club or two. Despite our recent fabulous run, there are too many derbies and just about all of them pick us as 'their rival'. One or two less wouldn't be a loss.
 
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I don't think Mark Hughes belongs in the PL at whichever club he coaches and it's been downhill all the way since his departure from City. I wouldn't mind seeing that old tanker Newcastle sink but other than that I have no other preferences.

He’s the same as Big Sam, Pardew and Moyes, they don’t achieve anything but always get chances. Hopefully once Saints sack him, he is never seen again in the Premier League.
 
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Who do we want to see go down this season? I don't have a problem with Fulham as a club but replacing so many players who got them up leaves a sour taste so I wouldn't mind them going back down.Hopefully West Ham will join them but other than that I like most of the other clubs.

Cardiff - hate Warnock
West Ham - obvious reasons
Fulham - signed too many players and sacked the man who got them promoted.
 
He’s the same as Big Sam, Pardew and Moyes, they don’t achieve anything but always get chances. Hopefully once Saints sack him, he is never seen again in the Premier League.
We play Saints on the 5th of December and damage limitation is their best tactic.
 
Watching the Pool match again, I agree that the "pen" may not have been clear cut - although I happen to think it was. Nevertheless it occurs to me that what Pool have really been benefiting from is not straight "wrong" decisions, but those where there is any element of doubt - in other words where the ref has a subjective decision to make. This is far more subtle than straight right or wrong, but it's probably where the refs have the most influence. Sure that penalty we should have had against them was pretty clear cut, but since then there's been quite a number of less clear incidents.

They don't get criticism because the pundits just say stuff like "well you can see why the ref gave it / ref didn't give it". The trouble is that their opinion changes according to which team is getting the decision. So if the decision could go ether way, then half the time (or at least some of it), the decisions would go against Liverpool. The difficulty is that so far this season the decision never seems to go against Liverpool. And I'm left with the feeling that we've earned our 3rd place, but Liverpool have been given 2nd.
 
Watching the Pool match again, I agree that the "pen" may not have been clear cut - although I happen to think it was. Nevertheless it occurs to me that what Pool have really been benefiting from is not straight "wrong" decisions, but those where there is any element of doubt - in other words where the ref has a subjective decision to make. This is far more subtle than straight right or wrong, but it's probably where the refs have the most influence. Sure that penalty we should have had against them was pretty clear cut, but since then there's been quite a number of less clear incidents.

They don't get criticism because the pundits just say stuff like "well you can see why the ref gave it / ref didn't give it". The trouble is that their opinion changes according to which team is getting the decision. So if the decision could go ether way, then half the time (or at least some of it), the decisions would go against Liverpool. The difficulty is that so far this season the decision never seems to go against Liverpool. And I'm left with the feeling that we've earned our 3rd place, but Liverpool have been given 2nd.
That's what gets me about calling them 50/50 decisions: they aren't 50/50 by any stretch of the imagination.

The one that always got me is how Brendan Rodgers said gareth Bale was a diver (an accusation he never made about several of his team that season...) and as a result refs wouldn't give him anything and defenders were allowed to scythe him down with impunity, yet other players have a hard-won reputation for diving yet the referees are happy to give them every single decision they hurled themselves to the ground for.

In terms of teams getting the benefit of the doubt, it does tie in to one of two things: position in the table, and who plays for them. Newcastle are the perfect example of this, as they sure as hell got the rub of the green from referees in 1995/6 (aka the season where a team actually bottled the league, Chelsea fans) while they also benefited from referees turning a blind eye to Alan Shearer not only pratfalling to the turf for a ludicrous number of penalties per season but also leaving defenders with impressions of his elbows and studs, and with the possible exception of the rare occasions where Michael Owen wasn't injured I can't think of a single player of theirs who've had the benefits of ref's selective eyesight since
 
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