Rival watch
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Something tells me Mourinho's a boring **** 
The media reacting like Pogba's injury could be disastrous for United's run-in.
Surely they mean to say that his absence improves their chances of a top 4 place?
Surely they mean to say that his absence improves their chances of a top 4 place?
It is being reported that supporters of the Gooners are hiring a plane to tow a message protesting against Wenger being offered a new contract.
Complete Madness. What's the point in doing that when the bloke can't see most of what happens in front of him on the pitch?
Complete Madness. What's the point in doing that when the bloke can't see most of what happens in front of him on the pitch?
Convenient for Pogba.He has time to spend his money now.Oh sorry.Can't walk ......can he? his wife,girlfriend or boyfriend can spend it for him!
After we leave the EU we will be able to tax foreign players properly. Can I suggest the club pays 25% of the transfer fee in tax before the player is given a work permit, then 20% of salary each year to buy a work permit. It might give young English players a chance and penalise the money bags clubs.
Solving the 'Chelsea Academy Failing' is critical for the England national team. The winners of the FA Youth Cup for the last 2 years have singularly failed to produce a graduate to play regularly in their first team. This week's international choices are average players, for the most part. That group's not going to have any great impact at an international tournament.
Chelsea's failure to convert excellent potential into real achievement [and one could add Liverpool and Citeh to them] has to be addressed. We've rejected the 'pile 'em high and loan 'em out' model, as MP thinks the players don't progress to an appropriately high standard Maybe a limit on the number of players a club can loan out? Interestingly, Liverpool, Citeh and most recently, Chelsea have announced that they intend to follow our lead of keeping young players on restricted salaries to 'treat 'em mean and keep 'em keen'. The intention of avoiding young players like Dominic Solanke asking for £50k per week, without having played a single full first team game is obviously a good one. We're increasing Dele's pay incrementally, to encourage the belief that he's still progressing and improving and needs to do exactly that to reach his full potential on the pitch and in terms of pay.
I've no desire to limit our clubs' competitiveness in Europe by making it too difficult to recruit really talented players [of whatever age] from around the world. However, these talented youngsters must be given the opportunity to make careers and I would recommend that young players be free to leave their clubs, for free, by the age of 21, if they haven't managed 25+ first team appearances. This would mean clubs should play them or move them on [for a fee] before their talents start to wither on the vine. I am sure that Bournemouth, Burnley, Palace, and other PL and Championship sides would use these players, if they could recruit them. That seems fair all round to me and might just improve our national options.
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It'll be fun to see The Sun have a nervous breakdown when Aguero, Hazard et al depart the Premier League as a result - but, as it's The Sun, fail to accept responsibility for this happening due to them being so pro-Leave in the first place.
All you have to do is look at the newspapers gossip columns on which young starlet is being watched by which Premier League club. The latest are the bright young things of Monaco. It's never (rarely) the bright young things of a top Premier League club being watched by the large clubs on the continent. The top clubs are completely gash at producing talent these days and even the bought up young talent struggles to make it. And, yes, I know we bought in Rose, Walker and Alli but they were for relative peanuts and not exactly high profile. And know look at them. A stark contrast to the likes of Liverpool, Manc clubs or Chelsea. Is Terry the last of that 'homegrown' generation at these clubs?
The current method of the Sky 4 + 1 is to have a youngster with potential on their books, loan them out incessantly, and then have them move to a mid-table club where they show what they can do, which leads to a different Sky 4 + 1 club spending a ridiculous amount of money to sign them at a later date.
Michael Keane is the obvious example here: he had the grand total of 47 minutes of Premier League football during his time at Man Utd, and within a month of those 47 minutes he was loaned to Burnley before his loan became permanent - and eighteen months later both City and Chelsea sniffing around. So if he does end up at either of those clubs, at what point will the papers call out Man Utd for letting a potential top quality centre back slip through their fingers for peanuts? They won't, that's the problem.
Of course, then there's the other side of the problem: pretending that certain youngsters are better than they actually are, based solely on what club they play for. For example, Wes Brown was only ever a solid defender, good enough to be rotated into the Man Utd team for a few matches but certainly not someone who should be starting every game at that level, but because he played for Man Utd he was having England caps thrown at him - yet as soon as he moved to Sunderland he was suddenly no longer good enough for England selection, which makes no goddamn sense.
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That is what happens when moneybags clubs apply a "hoover" policy to acquiring future talent,
often to prevent rivals getting them (and in some cases, rivals who WILL make the rough diamonds
into the finished product) .
"We've rejected the 'pile 'em high and loan 'em out' model, as MP thinks the players don't progress to an appropriately high standard."
Spurs have never really had that approach.
The loan regime prior to Pochettino has served the club, and the PL (who have numerous players
who never made it to the end of the Academy pipeline or did not have what was required for the
senior squad manager) well indeed.
"Interestingly, Liverpool, Citeh and most recently, Chelsea have announced that they intend to follow our lead of keeping young players on restricted salaries to 'treat 'em mean and keep 'em keen'. The intention of avoiding young players like Dominic Solanke asking for £50k per week, without having played a single full first team game is obviously a good one. We're increasing Dele's pay incrementally, to encourage the belief that he's still progressing and improving and needs to do exactly that to reach his full potential on the pitch and in terms of pay."
The policy seems to be :
- The club met some material goals as a result of the on-pitch performances.
- You are deemed to be a significant reason for this
- We want to reward you with increased pay, but that also may mean a contract
extension on your part.
So not "treat them mean ..." , but deliver on the pitch for the good of the club and
you will be rewarded accordingly as best we can.
So in summary, a well-run club that fortunately does not have more money than sense.
That is what happens when moneybags clubs apply a "hoover" policy to acquiring future talent,
often to prevent rivals getting them (and in some cases, rivals who WILL make the rough diamonds
into the finished product) .
"We've rejected the 'pile 'em high and loan 'em out' model, as MP thinks the players don't progress to an appropriately high standard."
Spurs have never really had that approach.
The loan regime prior to Pochettino has served the club, and the PL (who have numerous players
who never made it to the end of the Academy pipeline or did not have what was required for the
senior squad manager) well indeed.
"Interestingly, Liverpool, Citeh and most recently, Chelsea have announced that they intend to follow our lead of keeping young players on restricted salaries to 'treat 'em mean and keep 'em keen'. The intention of avoiding young players like Dominic Solanke asking for £50k per week, without having played a single full first team game is obviously a good one. We're increasing Dele's pay incrementally, to encourage the belief that he's still progressing and improving and needs to do exactly that to reach his full potential on the pitch and in terms of pay."
The policy seems to be :
- The club met some material goals as a result of the on-pitch performances.
- You are deemed to be a significant reason for this
- We want to reward you with increased pay, but that also may mean a contract
extension on your part.
So not "treat them mean ..." , but deliver on the pitch for the good of the club and
you will be rewarded accordingly as best we can.
So in summary, a well-run club that fortunately does not have more money than sense.
Roy Keane can't make up his mind about Jose Mourinho's reign at OT...
"I've never heard so much rubbish in my life. Why do we have to listen to that garbage?" Keane told ITV Sport.
"It's just utter nonsense what he's talking about. He's manager of Manchester United, one of the biggest clubs on the planet. The squad he's got... and he keeps moaning about fixtures and fatigue.
"We were just looking at some of the cup draws they've had. They've had an easy ride in the cups; some good draws and a lot of home draws. The guy's talking absolute nonsense. I've never heard so much rubbish in my life.
"Maybe the club's too big for him. He can't deal with all these demands at the match. What matches? Man United reserves could have won that game tonight. I'm sick to death of him."
"I've never heard so much rubbish in my life. Why do we have to listen to that garbage?" Keane told ITV Sport.
"It's just utter nonsense what he's talking about. He's manager of Manchester United, one of the biggest clubs on the planet. The squad he's got... and he keeps moaning about fixtures and fatigue.
"We were just looking at some of the cup draws they've had. They've had an easy ride in the cups; some good draws and a lot of home draws. The guy's talking absolute nonsense. I've never heard so much rubbish in my life.
"Maybe the club's too big for him. He can't deal with all these demands at the match. What matches? Man United reserves could have won that game tonight. I'm sick to death of him."
He talks like he used to play.
Sure, he'll win the ball, but he'll take a huge chunk out of the man while he's doing it.
I wonder if he's still welcome at Old Trafford now?
Fergie would probably have banned him.
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Fixed for u
Keane is unhinged and quite surprised that anyone takes him seriously anymore.
Ban him? If I were Utd I would be looking for a Restraining Order!!
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Feck off urself, ur feckin eejit!!^
Feck off, I'm having a point
Are we doing Father Ted dialogue?Feck off urself, ur feckin eejit!!
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I've just returned from the pub after shephards pie and guiness....and an interesting chat with a bloke at the bar.
You "English" St Patrick,you! St Pat was taken as a slave from a part of,what is now known as England,and took up religion sometime later,finishing up in Ireland,apparently.
You "English" St Patrick,you! St Pat was taken as a slave from a part of,what is now known as England,and took up religion sometime later,finishing up in Ireland,apparently.