Rival watch
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Can't take much more of this to be honest. Sick of the team, sick of the manager, sick of the owner and Chief Exec, sick of the people running the club. Probably not going to watch football for two weeks now
We're so bad, it's actually unbelievable how we're 4th
Come and join us and follow a decent club
I can only assume that all these gooners calling for Wenger's head are either very young or part of the 2003 era glory hunting brigade. Clearly none of them remember the club full of alcoholic morons he transformed into champions. That stadium and everything that makes them a big club has been built on WENGER'S success. I only pray that come what may we never forget Harry and to a lesser extent Jol for getting us where we are today.
Don't think so, Ensil.
I'll probably get murdered for saying this, but I do admire Spurs....(to an extent). Given that they've had the Modric saga and Harry going on trial for tax evasion to deal with as potential disruptions to the squad, the players have done well to not let the off-field problems affect their on-field performances. The attitude, determination and the confidence the Spurs' players have all displayed is truly commendable.
You are where you are because you thoroughly deserve it and you thoroughly deserve to finish above our shower of ****.
Well done Tottenham - after next week, the north London powershift will be official.
Honesty is a great quality to have
Don't think so, Ensil.
I'll probably get murdered for saying this, but I do admire Spurs....(to an extent). Given that they've had the Modric saga and Harry going on trial for tax evasion to deal with as potential disruptions to the squad, the players have done well to not let the off-field problems affect their on-field performances. The attitude, determination and the confidence the Spurs' players have all displayed is truly commendable.
You are where you are because you thoroughly deserve it and you thoroughly deserve to finish above our shower of ****.
Well done Tottenham - after next week, the north London powershift will be official.
well as honest as a bloke can get cheers
Ens's offer is still open..just see yourself as one of the mercenaries that play for you...they wont give a damn and will leave a sinking ship no matter what..so go on fella....come and join us ammaar....
And dont forget Alan Sugar, he saved our club when we didnt have a pot to p!ss in when he took over and now Levy etc are reaping the rewards, however Alan Sugar couldnt pick a manager.....
they underestimate Wenger..i tell you if he leaves/shipped out..he will be snapped up by a good club with money to spend..then watch him build a good team.
the numpties down the road will replace him...and expect the new man to carry on where Wenger left off at the very least and then improve..but at the same time having no money to spend like Wenger has found out.
i know we mock him but Wenger is a class manager ..its the team that is rubbish..a team that he cant build like he wants to..shoot me but if HR went id love to have him here...with our team and money he will build another set of invincibles....i domt blame Wenger one bit.
the numpties down the road will replace him...and expect the new man to carry on where Wenger left off at the very least and then improve..but at the same time having no money to spend like Wenger has found out.
i know we mock him but Wenger is a class manager ..its the team that is rubbish..a team that he cant build like he wants to..shoot me but if HR went id love to have him here...with our team and money he will build another set of invincibles....i domt blame Wenger one bit.
Tough choice tonight: Total Wipeout or Sunderland/Arsenal, which one is more humiliating?
Not sure what purpose Clive Tyldsley's eulogy late in the game was supposed to serve. Wenger knew that Fabregas and Nasri were likely to leave in the summer and keeping hold of them was going to be unlikely, but apart from a tentative enquiry about Eden Hazard didn't look to sign an immediate or long-term replacement in that position, nor did he do so in January. He needs to take responsibility for failing to address this problem then, because letting your creative fulcrum and their understudy leave without any cover is carelessness bordering on negligence.
A couple of seasons back I said on Old606 that Wenger had been there too long and it was harming the team but was (predictibly) shouted down and generally patronised. I guess they should've listened, eh?
Not sure what purpose Clive Tyldsley's eulogy late in the game was supposed to serve. Wenger knew that Fabregas and Nasri were likely to leave in the summer and keeping hold of them was going to be unlikely, but apart from a tentative enquiry about Eden Hazard didn't look to sign an immediate or long-term replacement in that position, nor did he do so in January. He needs to take responsibility for failing to address this problem then, because letting your creative fulcrum and their understudy leave without any cover is carelessness bordering on negligence.
A couple of seasons back I said on Old606 that Wenger had been there too long and it was harming the team but was (predictibly) shouted down and generally patronised. I guess they should've listened, eh?
The infighting on the Arsenal board is hilarious. I suggest you all take a good look over there!
PISKIE takes it by saying it hasn't gone downhill since 2005 as they reached the CL final in 2006.
So either...
a.) It's all been downhill since 2006
b.) Premier League, 4th, FA Cup, 4th round. Carling Cup, semi-finals. It was already going downhill then, albeit with one large distraction.
So either...
a.) It's all been downhill since 2006
b.) Premier League, 4th, FA Cup, 4th round. Carling Cup, semi-finals. It was already going downhill then, albeit with one large distraction.
I wouldnt say he is tactically inept..this guy won you the double!!
id say hes got idiots for players as oppose to players that have will power,self respect and the hunger to win.
all this boloks of it is the manager's job to get this out of players is rubbish..in life and also on a football pitch..if you have played football at any evel you will know that there are some people who have inbuilt fire..and others who are just pansies and can talk but cant fight...cant struggle..and couldnt give a damn regardless of how much they are told..you have weak males in your team..they are not men on the pitch.
id say hes got idiots for players as oppose to players that have will power,self respect and the hunger to win.
all this boloks of it is the manager's job to get this out of players is rubbish..in life and also on a football pitch..if you have played football at any evel you will know that there are some people who have inbuilt fire..and others who are just pansies and can talk but cant fight...cant struggle..and couldnt give a damn regardless of how much they are told..you have weak males in your team..they are not men on the pitch.
Going back to the Fabregas/Nasri situation, we know what it's like when vital components are removed from a team without being replaced, as happened with Berbatov and Keane a few years back - although we had the added problem of Comolli spending all our money on the wrong players in the wrong positions for the second summer in a row - but it does baffle me that Wenger appears to have decided Hazard was the player he wanted and didn't seem to have a backup plan (the same can be said of his bid to sign Gotze in the January window)
Both these prospective moves, as well as paying big money for Arshavin a few years back, also undermine Wenger's dedication to bringing through youth, as he's paying through the nose for players to go straight into the team. One theory is that he's realised his youth movement won't reap the benefits that it did a few years ago so he has to do what he never did before and compete in the transfer market, or he's realised the youngsters at his disposal will take longer to graduate to fully-fledged first teamers so he needs to spend big now to earn big later. Either way, this is out of his comfort zone - which is why I feel he's been there too long and has become too set in his ways, or has been allowed if you buy into the theory pat Rice is nothing but a Yes Man.
Gazidis being scared off by Lille slapping a grossly inflated £40m price tag on Hazard (or the £35m slapped on Gotze by Dortmund) indicates something else being wrong in the boardroom - a lack of nous for transfer negotiations. Arsenal probably could've signed Hazard for £20-5m last summer, but instead got scared off by Lille's valuation. Even the £12m paid for Oxlade-Chamberlain looks like a lack of negotiating skill, as they pretty much handed over the fee Southampton were asking for (especially compared to the £5m with add-ons paid for Walcott a few years previously)
Both these prospective moves, as well as paying big money for Arshavin a few years back, also undermine Wenger's dedication to bringing through youth, as he's paying through the nose for players to go straight into the team. One theory is that he's realised his youth movement won't reap the benefits that it did a few years ago so he has to do what he never did before and compete in the transfer market, or he's realised the youngsters at his disposal will take longer to graduate to fully-fledged first teamers so he needs to spend big now to earn big later. Either way, this is out of his comfort zone - which is why I feel he's been there too long and has become too set in his ways, or has been allowed if you buy into the theory pat Rice is nothing but a Yes Man.
Gazidis being scared off by Lille slapping a grossly inflated £40m price tag on Hazard (or the £35m slapped on Gotze by Dortmund) indicates something else being wrong in the boardroom - a lack of nous for transfer negotiations. Arsenal probably could've signed Hazard for £20-5m last summer, but instead got scared off by Lille's valuation. Even the £12m paid for Oxlade-Chamberlain looks like a lack of negotiating skill, as they pretty much handed over the fee Southampton were asking for (especially compared to the £5m with add-ons paid for Walcott a few years previously)
What are you talking about, his back up plan was signing a 19 year old none of us have ever heard of
What are you talking about, his back up plan was signing a 19 year old none of us have ever heard of
Hazard is quality. He would have made a hell of a lot of difference to them.
