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PowerSpurs said:
Brighton have had one good year in player trading in their entire history. For the previous five years they had the lowest profit of any club in the PL. Over that period Spurs were in the top 8 with more than 10 times as much profit as Brighton.
It's ridiculous to draw conclusions on a single result.
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And how did you check their entire history? And what constitutes a good year in player trading? Poor argument, well below your usual standard.
 
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Spurf said:
And how did you check their entire history? And what constitutes a good year in player trading? Poor argument, well below your usual standard.
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Swiss Ramble publishes the data. They measure it based on declared profits in the club accounts. Last year Brighton made about £60m. They have never been in double figures in any previous year.
It's a subscription service so I can't post a link. They will have another good year this year though.
 
Citizen Kane. said:
They've got a horrible run-in to navigate but I would love it if they grab European football off one of the so-called 'big' clubs who have all been crap this season (us, Liverpool or United).
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I predict they will finish top 6 (I also predict Spurs will finish 7th) .
 
PowerSpurs said:
Swiss Ramble publishes the data. They measure it based on declared profits in the club accounts. Last year Brighton made about £60m. They have never been in double figures in any previous year.
It's a subscription service so I can't post a link. They will have another good year this year though.
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I still find that a weak argument because it appears that the success is measured by profits. In Brighton's case they were actually cheated of their stadium which was sold off to build a Sainsburys. They had to play in a very temporary site for a number of years. Nevertheless they managed to make it to the top flight after fighting the local council for permission to build their stadium. That suggests some significant success in the transfer market and success that would not show up in profits. In fact I don't see how measuring the profits suggests success in player transfers. If they want to build a good team it would be easier to hang on to their good players at the cost of profit on player transfers. Instead Brighton have managed to do both and that is certainly not possible in one season.
 
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PowerSpurs said:
If it's a technology edge then everyone else will be using it within a year. Brighton and Brentford will end up being bottom half PL sides at best because they don't have enough financial strength to be better than that in the long run.
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Highly doubtful, as the technological edge is equally dependent on both the willingness to take the punts on these lesser known players as well as the capability and belief in coaching to develop them. And the latter part of that probably isn't spoken of enough, many on here are in agreement Brighton's scouting is exceptional but the players they sign still need to be coached into Premier League quality players and that also comes from a club having a clear vision and philosophy on how football should be played and thus training players to do as such.
 
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Spurf said:
I still find that a weak argument because it appears that the success is measured by profits. In Brighton's case they were actually cheated of their stadium which was sold off to build a Sainsburys. They had to play in a very temporary site for a number of years. Nevertheless they managed to make it to the top flight after fighting the local council for permission to build their stadium. That suggests some significant success in the transfer market and success that would not show up in profits. In fact I don't see how measuring the profits suggests success in player transfers. If they want to build a good team it would be easier to hang on to their good players at the cost of profit on player transfers. Instead Brighton have managed to do both and that is certainly not possible in one season.
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Every club declares a profit on player trading in its annual accounts. It's the difference between the amortised value of a player based on the price paid and the price they are sold for. Nothing else is included.
It's quite possible that they have suddenly found an edge in recruitment but equally possible that they have got lucky for a few signings.
 
PowerSpurs said:
Every club declares a profit on player trading in its annual accounts. It's the difference between the amortised value of a player based on the price paid and the price they are sold for. Nothing else is included.
It's quite possible that they have suddenly found an edge in recruitment but equally possible that they have got lucky for a few signings.
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The better they plan the luckier they get.:emoticon-0100-smile
 
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Spurf said:
The better they plan the luckier they get.:emoticon-0100-smile
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We will see which is right over a few seasons. But you need more than five to get anything statistically significant.
It's one of the commonest human failings to see patterns in random events and so take unnecessary actions to try to correct problems that don't actually exist.
 
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