1. Log in now to remove adverts - no adverts at all to registered members!

Rival watch

Discussion in 'Tottenham Hotspur' started by Spurlock, Jan 2, 2012.

  1. BrunelGunner

    BrunelGunner Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2020
    Messages:
    5,033
    Likes Received:
    3,310
    Benrahma and Watkins look far too good for the Championship. I think both of them would have no problems thriving in the Prem. Hadn't watched much of Mbuemo, and he's been quite wasteful today/looked short of confidence. But I googled him and saw that he's 20 years old, signed from the French second division at the start of this season and has 16 goals in 45 games this season - not bad at all.

    Would be interesting to see how they all develop.
     
    #62961
    Dier Hard likes this.
  2. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    41,064
    Likes Received:
    48,289
    Yeah the whole BMW have been unreal this season, Brentford's scouting network is brilliant. Allows them to massively punch above their weight.

    The guys on here will tell you I've wanted Watkins at Spurs ever since his Exeter days, just run a search on our transfer threads for posts me by and the word 'Watkins' and you'll likely see how obsessed I've been <laugh>. I keep an eye on Exeter due to having family in East Devon, was obvious back then he was destined for bigger things. He's one of those players with zero weaknesses; right foot, left foot, good header, physically strong, bit pacey, skilful, ability to shoot from range and versatile too, this is his first season as a proper centre forward too, often played just off the striker on cutting inside from the wing.
     
    #62962
  3. KingHotspur

    KingHotspur Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 11, 2011
    Messages:
    24,969
    Likes Received:
    31,182
    3-1, this isn’t over yet
     
    #62963
  4. BrunelGunner

    BrunelGunner Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2020
    Messages:
    5,033
    Likes Received:
    3,310
    One thing that I've noticed about Watkins is his work-rate. He's pressing from the front, getting back to defend and win the ball back when his team are out of possession. If you want to do well in the top flight, work off the ball is so important.

    Also, I hate to break it to you, DH, but seems like he's a boyhood Arsenal fan...<whistle>



    If Lacazette leaves this Summer, I absolutely wouldn't turn my nose up at this fella.
     
    #62964
  5. BrunelGunner

    BrunelGunner Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2020
    Messages:
    5,033
    Likes Received:
    3,310
    Such a stupid time to try a flamboyant flick by Jansson. They've been so comfortable and he goes and does that. He's made life unnecessarily difficult for Brentford.
     
    #62965
  6. humanbeingincroydon

    humanbeingincroydon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 28, 2011
    Messages:
    69,610
    Likes Received:
    30,537
    Swansea put together a decent passing move but Rhian Brewster opts to shoot low from the edge of the box, straight at David Raya. His team-mates are suggesting he had better options either side of him.

    I think you mean "He's brilliant, he's going to score 206 goals when he gets a chance in Norbert's side next season"...
     
    #62966
  7. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    41,064
    Likes Received:
    48,289
    Everyone makes mistakes I guess, lol.

    He definitely won't be short of options though that's for sure should Brentford fail to come up.
     
    #62967
  8. BrunelGunner

    BrunelGunner Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 2020
    Messages:
    5,033
    Likes Received:
    3,310
    FT. Brentford are off to the play-off final against either Cardiff or Fulham. Thoroughly deserved.

    Whoever wins in that other game is irrelevant to me. Really want Brentford to get promoted. Fulham have been in and around the Prem for many years, but for Brentford, it's been 70+ years. Will make a nice change to have them in here. And I really like what their manager has done. Good group of players too.
     
    #62968
    Stokenchurch yid and Dier Hard like this.
  9. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    96,193
    Likes Received:
    55,681
  10. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    41,064
    Likes Received:
    48,289
    That's a really good signing for them.
     
    #62970

  11. BobbyD

    BobbyD President

    Joined:
    Oct 25, 2013
    Messages:
    22,075
    Likes Received:
    17,899
    please log in to view this image


    keep your pants on mate
     
    #62971
  12. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    41,064
    Likes Received:
    48,289
    Already knocked one out I'm afraid <laugh>
     
    #62972
    PleaseNotPoll likes this.
  13. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,067
    Likes Received:
    5,650
    I don't think they do it by scouting....they do it by science. Looking for proper stats that tell you which clubs are outperforming and which of their players is responsible.
    See https://www.google.com/amp/s/talksp...rtest-club-championship-leicester-fa-cup/amp/

    It is nice to see the usual bullshit being ignored and the results improving. No rubbish there about the manager needing to choose his own players....you just put in a system that gets him the best players available for the budget and let him coach.
     
    #62973
    remembercolinlee and Dier Hard like this.
  14. Dier Hard

    Dier Hard G'day mate!

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2011
    Messages:
    41,064
    Likes Received:
    48,289
    Was a good read, I think it sound likes they mix it all together to get the perfect combination. "It's not that data tells you who to pick, data can tell you where to look" would imply to me that their stats/ data system points them in the right direction and then from there on it's more down to the human side (scouting assessment/ manager/ coach analysis) to make the final decision on any potential signings.
     
    #62974
  15. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,067
    Likes Received:
    5,650
    Probably correct. But you only scout players if the data tells you to. That eliminates a lot of dross and observer bias early on in the process.
    The owner has a physics degree from Oxford and is simply using scientific processes that he has applied in other areas.
     
    #62975
    Dier Hard likes this.
  16. The Huddlefro

    The Huddlefro Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    8,115
    Likes Received:
    6,552
    From my understanding of modern scouting that’s exactly it - the stats create the shortlist, say a top 10 players on certain metrics, then it’s the ‘eye test’ to decide who actually gets the nod.
     
    #62976
    Dier Hard likes this.
  17. PowerSpurs

    PowerSpurs Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 15, 2011
    Messages:
    13,067
    Likes Received:
    5,650
    I suspect that at Brentford they usually agree the stats outcome in the eye test though. They wouldn't let a human who has watched a player 10 times or fewer overule stats on 100 or more games without really testing the logic.
     
    #62977
    The Huddlefro likes this.
  18. Spurlock

    Spurlock Homeboy
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2011
    Messages:
    74,753
    Likes Received:
    90,455
  19. The Changing Man

    The Changing Man Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2015
    Messages:
    11,082
    Likes Received:
    10,332
    Doing some really good business Veltman and Lallana in for under £1m
     
    #62979
    Dier Hard likes this.
  20. PleaseNotPoll

    PleaseNotPoll Well-Known Member
    Forum Moderator

    Joined:
    May 31, 2011
    Messages:
    96,193
    Likes Received:
    55,681
    It's Damien Comolli's method. It's not bad as a basis for scouting, but it shouldn't be the whole product.
     
    #62980

Share This Page