Rival watch

[The RDBD]

The Citeh fans worry me more though. If we start winning things at least 10,000 will start 'supporting' us and no one will be able to get a ticket. At least the mourners will always be mourners.
Felling spell correction, you know what I mean.

Not if your club ticket allocation scheme :

1. rewards loyalty and perseverance
2. is equitable


If those 10000 want to join the Powerspurs posse and help pay
down the new WHL debt burden faster, fine by me. However if
that means they effectively buy a "cheap seat" at a higher price
to the detriment of the rcls, then they can remain at the back of the
queue forever.

 

[deedub93]

Not if your club ticket allocation scheme :

1. rewards loyalty and perseverance
2. is equitable


If those 10000 want to join the Powerspurs posse and help pay
down the new WHL debt burden faster, fine by me. However if
that means they effectively buy a "cheap seat" at a higher price
to the detriment of the rcls, then they can remain at the back of the
queue forever.

That is the problem, I've already had at least half a dozen touts asking me if I have any spare tickets.

 

[remembercolinlee]

Me and the teen beast are well pleased that the plastico's couldn't sell their allocation...we are on our way for her first match at the new lane....

COYS

 

[The RDBD]

That is the problem, I've already had at least half a dozen touts asking me if I have any spare tickets.

No problem whatsoever. If the answer is :

1. no, then off they go.

2. yes, and you have nobody to attend with to use those tickets, then
find the means to sell them back via official channels at cost + whatever
overheads you incurred (payment card charges etc) .

And of course, if the club makes #2 possible and CREDITS your member
account with "points" etc for your good deed, then both you and the member
who subsequently get the spare tickets materially benefit.

 

[The Changing Man]

What's wrong with :Liverpool supporters? I don't understand Spurs' antipathy towards us.

For me its not the fans its the Carraghers, Mcmanamans, Quinns, Redknapps, and countless other Pro Liverpool media types, they get the easiest run in the press as it is with so many ex's as pundits but if they win the league too we will never here the end of it.

On top of that my generation saw Liverpool win enough trophies for anyones life time so City can carry on for while yet before its anywhere near as boring as Liverpool winning in the 80s

 

[Blue and White]

Haven't seen it yet but looks like things won't change even with VAR with regards to favouritsm:
From the BBC...
''There was another nervous first-half moment for Liverpool when Alisson tipped away a deflected cross with the ball deflecting on to Alexander-Arnold's arm. The incident was checked by VAR but the referee awarded a corner rather than a penalty.

Mohamed Salah could have been sent off late on for a high tackle with his studs on to Danilo Pereira's shin but after another VAR review no foul was given.''

 

[PleaseNotPoll]

Haven't seen it yet but looks like things won't change even with VAR with regards to favouritsm:
From the BBC...
''There was another nervous first-half moment for Liverpool when Alisson tipped away a deflected cross with the ball deflecting on to Alexander-Arnold's arm. The incident was checked by VAR but the referee awarded a corner rather than a penalty.

Mohamed Salah could have been sent off late on for a high tackle with his studs on to Danilo Pereira's shin but after another VAR review no foul was given.''

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[Blue and White]

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Thanks.
Definitely a red for Salah and could easily have been a penalty for handball.

 

[bigsmithy9]

Salah and Messi.Two left footed midgets.One touch and they fall over!

 

[Citizen Kane.]

Thanks.
Definitely a red for Salah and could easily have been a penalty for handball.

The penalty would have been quite harsh as Alisson changed the flight of the ball. As with many things VAR it looks far worse in slow motion than in real life. It was probably almost impossible for TAA to change his stance before it hit him. Although by the same token if Rose was penalised you can't give one and not the other.

That Salah's challenge wasn't even given as a foul was a total joke though, and only serves to cast doubt on the entire system. At the end of the day you are still at the mercy of the perception bias of the VAR officials, which is precisely the problem we have with the current officials only they don't have slow motion all-angle replays to make things look 100x worse than they were.

Rugby style broadcasting is the only fair way forward imo.

 

[Red Hadron Collider]

Haven't seen it yet but looks like things won't change even with VAR with regards to favouritsm:
From the BBC...
''There was another nervous first-half moment for Liverpool when Alisson tipped away a deflected cross with the ball deflecting on to Alexander-Arnold's arm. The incident was checked by VAR but the referee awarded a corner rather than a penalty.

Mohamed Salah could have been sent off late on for a high tackle with his studs on to Danilo Pereira's shin but after another VAR review no foul was given.''

Probably an idea to actually watch the incidents before passing judgement

 

[humanbeingincroydon]

Probably an idea to actually watch the incidents before passing judgement

Which is why videos of said incidents are a few posts up from yours...

 

[PowerSpurs]

The penalty would have been quite harsh as Alisson changed the flight of the ball. As with many things VAR it looks far worse in slow motion than in real life. It was probably almost impossible for TAA to change his stance before it hit him. Although by the same token if Rose was penalised you can't give one and not the other.

That Salah's challenge wasn't even given as a foul was a total joke though, and only serves to cast doubt on the entire system. At the end of the day you are still at the mercy of the perception bias of the VAR officials, which is precisely the problem we have with the current officials only they don't have slow motion all-angle replays to make things look 100x worse than they were.

Rugby style broadcasting is the only fair way forward imo.

I'm unclear on the VaR process. I know it only applies to goals, penalties, red card offences and mistaken identity but does that mean if the ref completely misses a bad foul and the review deems it only worth a yellow then the original decision stands?

 

[Citizen Kane.]

I'm unclear on the VaR process. I know it only applies to goals, penalties, red card offences and mistaken identity but does that mean if the ref completely misses a bad foul and the review deems it only worth a yellow then the original decision stands?

This was part of the problem evident last night when Gary Lineker tried to pin down Peter Walton to answer this very question and ended up getting no further than a half answer. It is all so, so vague. The Fernandinho elbow to Kane's head going unpunished (and not even checked by VAR) can only be explained one of two ways, one requiring a tin foil hat, the other that the VAR officials don't rely on or consult TV replays, rather they watch the game in real time and try to pick up on things that the match officials missed. The problem with this of course is what if they missed the incident too? You'll still have millions of viewers at home watching detailed replays and arriving at the conclusion that the officials are incompetent at best, corrupt at worst. You are simple removing subjective judgement from 3 pairs of hands (the officials on the pitch) and dividing it amongst a further 3 pairs of hands (the VAR team off site) in the hope that more hands = better work. In reality though you don't need to study economics to understand that 6 people doing a job badly is actually worse than 3.

Lineker and Rio seemed clear that the technology was only there to be used when there was a 'clear and obvious error' from the officials, and argued that the ref was looking directly at Rose when the ball hit him and, due to his brain lacking a facility for slow motion replays, adjudged it to effectively be ball to hand and not a penalty. VAR should only be used when the ref isn't sure about a call (i.e. HE initiates the request rather than a voice in his ear), or when he missed something entirely (e.g. Fernandinho on kane).

 

[The Changing Man]

Peter Walton was an average referee, his appearances on BT are frankly awful generally just defends the referees decision (with the exception of Harry penalty v The Goons), one of those people who really makes you want to just punch the screen!

 

[O.Spurcat]

Several people have told me that Peter Walton was an embarrassment last night with his comments.

 

[littleDinosaurLuke]

Name the 5 clubs to have won all three major European trophies?

 

[Citizen Kane.]

Name the 5 clubs to have won all three major European trophies?

Paul Stewart

 

[The Changing Man]

Name the 5 clubs to have won all three major European trophies?

Man United!

 

[Left on the Shelf]

Smalling whacks Messi and escapes a booking, just after McTominy does a back somersault (degree of difficulty 4.5) trying to get a penalty, also no booking.
Accidental handball? Oh that's a booking