Pep also had a net spend of £144.5m over his 4 years at Barca. Not something that gets mentioned often
Jupp hynckes could be the first manager to win the champions league twice and get the boot after each victory lol, of course there is the German cup final to come but you get the point
Pep may well find himself in a position where he can win 6 trophies in one season again.... If bayern win the CL this season then he will have entry into the German super cup, european super cup, club world cup on top of the 3 normal competitions and if you look at the stats - bayern in 3 of the last 4 finals, it isn't beyond thinking that he has landed the dream job to follow on from his Barca success.
Barca's downfall has been their own arrogance. The fact they deemed no CB in the world good enough to play for them, says it all really. Also, upfront Sanchez has been a flop, and Villa is no longer the player he was.
Or, Pep nurtured them and gave them the confidence they needed, as well as moving them into their best positions. Iniesta normally played on the wing, with Deco in the middle, but Pep moved Iniesta into the midfield straight away. Then moved Messi into the false nine 9 role. Actually made the move during the CL final in 08 and was an excellent tactical move and totally confused Man Utd. Also, let's not forget that players like Iniesta, Pep is a huge figure. They grew up idolising him, so again the influence he has on players like Iniesta,Xavi and Busquets is massive.
Maybe we can snatch a few from the overstocked Germans too. Perhaps Gomez and if we're really lucky, Muller.
7-0 on aggregate, im so glad Barca have been knocked down a peg. Well, more like brutally plunged head first down a few flights of stairs. Couldn't happen to a nicer team.
Because he's been brainwashed by the media to believe Pep is the best thing since sliced bread. Not his fault, there's millions more out there.
He'll never come to England because he'd be found out. Bayern are using divide and conquer tactics to weaken Dortmund - their only rivals. League titles will be plain sailing for Pep and he'll then go to PSG and win titles in another 1 team league where the myth of him being a great manager can continue.
Not really. You claimed the Barca were already a good side when Pep and therefore he did not do much to take them to the top, but I countered that. His influence on that current Barca side is massive and he made them the team they were. Bayern are run by great football people, and they clearly thought Pep was good enough for them. Or, are they also brain washed by the media? It remains to be seen what Pep can do at Bayern, but clearly unlike at Barca he is not walking in on a rebuilding job.
Why on earth would he be found out in England? This is a league in which Mancini won the title, ffs. He would move to one of the bigger sides and he would be backed with **** loads of money. Let's just say he would have a pretty chance at winning something here.
Pep didn't make Barca great, the players did, providing opponents fear them. No team with Lionel Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Puyol etc is going to suck. Pep got lucky that the players matured, and the young players were drilled in playing in a 4-3-3, so were able to make the step up with ease. The fact that this Barca side lost to a 10 man Chelsea shows that when things are going against them, they aren't great, a good manager would be able to make the difference, and it appears that Guardiola got outmanaged by Di Matteo last season in the CL, and Mourinho in the league.
I think you underestimate the popularity of Ronaldinho (commercially as well), Deco and Eto'o in the Barca dressing room. Guardiola was a win-win situation for the Barca board because he could make changes that nobody outside La Masia or the Barca set up could. He was also given silly money to spend to improve a Barca side that only needed a little tweaking here and there. If Mighty Joe Young were in charge of Bayern they'd still finish 1st or 2nd, so it isn't that much of gamble to appoint a manager and build on the foundations of a retiring and already better manager. Chelsea are doing it now with Mourinho. The fans won't accept Terry and Lampard being phased out the side with Benitez as manager, but they will with Mourinho there (or would have with Di Matteo). If Rijkaard had tried to phase out Ronaldinho, the Catalan press would have turned on him an instant. Guardiola was a Barca boy so faced no pressure thus making his job easier. Look at AVB at Spurs. Has he had anywhere near as much media scrutiny as he did when Chelsea manager? It's allowed him to do his job, Pep is no different. I have more respect for Mourinho who went into clubs with no real foundation of winning and changes the philosophy/mentality of the club. Mourinho broke up the dominance of Arsenal/United, saw off Guardiola in Spain and delivered Inter an unprecedented treble after years of being in the shadow of their rivals Juventus and Milan.
Expect they did pretty much 'suck' before Pep arrived at Barca. Finishing third in a two team league and getting knocked out by Liverpool in the CL. You can't call a man that played a key role in establishing the Barca style lucky. His influence on the club from top to bottom is vast. So as I mentioned before players like Xavi are massively influenced by Guardiola. I believe Pep also destroyed Jose and his team in his time at Barca and also won the league, when Jose was Madrid's manager. He was not out-managed by Di Matteo. Chelsea won those ties through sheer will from their players.
I'm happy to accept we got lucky in the final in many respects as Bayern let the occasion get to them, had they played at their best or near, it there is simply no way we would have won that game. I still say however, had the 2nd leg of the Nou Camp been repeated I'd expect a similar outcome, simply because Barca have no idea what to do when the going gets tough. Chelsea are yet to lose to Barca 11 v 11 and it's because we play in a way that doesn't suit them. People that see that result as a fluke should ask why Chelsea have the better record in the head to head meetings considering we've met 12 times or so in the last 6/7 years. German sides are renowned for their organisation and functionality. It's no surprise Barca have a poor record against Bayern too. Can't handle teams that don't bend over for them and then cry "anti-football" when they don't win It was a victory for football tonight. Craft, versatility and teamwork beat diving, cheating and a single dimension approach.
