Sorry I'm late responding to this but I've been out all evening. I couldn't agree more with your assessment of government. Politicians sail along looking after their own interests 'til something like this happens and then they instigate reactionary measures which do nothing but save up the trouble for the future. I'm not taking sides- the kids see themselves as victims, but that doesn't give them the right to take it out on others who are no more to blame than they.
Smithdown road has been closed off because police are dealing with "an incident". The better pack it in before the weekend, scumbags!
Correct. The young kid we all saw on the news beginning mugged, for me and others destroys this idea the riots are because of underlying symptoms in the UK. These people are enjoying the anarchy and misery they are causing. It's typical of this society, blame somebody else, don't take responsibility for your own actions. Can you imagine the solicitor in court using the underlying symptoms defense: Solicitor: "Your worship, my client was upset over the on going economic downturn, angry about the Tory / Liberal democratic alliance and enraged about spending cuts. That is why he smashed up the Carphone Warehouse, and took the iPad and iPhone in addition to attacking those firefighters."
What would you propose we do then? Should the government give them more benefits? Give them a job? Take them out of the council estates and put them up in nice big houses in the poshest areas? These people want things given to them for free. They refuse to work hard. If they want any sort of help, then I suggest they go back to school and educate themselves or get a job.
I wish PM would say to the Police Force "Lads, we're in trouble, for the next few days you have no restrictions!". I want to see these rioters getting beaten up and I want their benefits taken off of them. Then I want to see their own flats being burnt to the ground. A gurdwara was under threat last night but the local Sikh's (armed with swords and weapons) protected it. These rioters are sick individuals with no motive. It is mindless. People saying that the cause is because of them fighting back for years of negligence is mindless in itself. I'm not saying that this does not exist because it does but it's NOT the reason why these riots have occurred.
If only it was that simple. You really think these kids can go to college? Last time i looked colleges in Croydon, Peckham etc were full to the brim with no spaces for the vast majority of people available. You can't just think 'i wanna go to college' and get a place! (especially in London) And when you say refuse to work hard?? Not sure what you mean really - do you realise the unemployment rates for the areas involved? There simply are NO jobs for these kids. The vast majority involved in the riots have jumped on the bandwagon and is just pure thuggery, so i completely agree that they are pure criminals. BUT, the one's that actually arranged all this have motives, and this was a highly organised riot. There is no easy solution - but believe me, by beating them up and cutting their benefits will make things a lot worse
In london? Do you also realise the vacancy rates? Unemployment rates and job availability are two very different things.
London is full of hundreds of colleges and learning establishments. I'm from Derby and I struggled to find a job there so I moved to London where there were jobs. There are hundreds of opportunities for these kids but they don't accept it because they think crime pays and unfortunately it does. I know a lot of people who live in these areas, all have been brought up with correct values and morals by their parents and they worked hard during school and now have good jobs. The kids aren't being pushed enough to do well in school and it now bites them in the @rse. The parents should carry a lot of the blame as well. And I think beating them up and cutting benefits is a START. Why? Because these kids aren't scared. They need to be taught a lesson and realise that their actions come with severe consequences. They know that the police can't touch them so they abuse it. They are fearless. We need to strike the same level of fear in them as they have done to the general public. 3 Asians (innocent vigilantes) were killed last night because a rioter ran them over.
Instead it's us, who will pay the consequences of their actions, get ready for a massive hike in insurance prices. Again.
Of course there is a difference. But, the job prospects available are pretty **** to be honest. Minimum wage pretty much stays the same and tax's increase considerably - therefore the kids feel like they have no option other than crime. Look guys im not sticking up for these kids - i just truly believe it is about time the government took some of the blame as to why incidents like this happen. Rather than go on TV acting all innocent making out this country is doing just fine!
An awful lot of our problems, IMHO stem from one fact and that is simply - this country of ours is too damned overcrowded. There are too many people chasing too few resources. And in the near future this is only going to get worse with life expectancy ever climbing upwards (30% of all people born today will reach 100), retirement ages expected to be 75 by 2050, so how on earth can all these additional people be expected to find gainful employment? Growth is at a generation low, unemployment is rising steadily and will continue to do so. The future for kids is, I'm afraid, looking bleaker by the moment. Not that it excuses any of them to indulge in the sort of behaviour we've been seeing these last few days.
Aarggh!!!! racist, KKK, neo-nazi, quick sack him and ruin his career! Sorry, calmed down down. It's obviously not what I think but it is what I have been trained to think and I have seen happen.
To be honest a good start would be for the government to stop spending billions each year blowing up innocent people in real troubled countries Quite clearly money we don't have to be wasting.
Exactly. Wish we take our troops out of these places and leave them alone. I want nothing to do with places like that because you will end up having the muslim extremists on our case. Just let them kill themselves and do whatever they want. Spend the money on our economy. Disagree with your comment regarding about the job prospects. Yes, they may be sh1t but a job is a job at the end of the day. The number of people that refuse a job because it's 'beneath them' and continue to accept dole money is sickening.
Yeah i agree about the job thing! BUT, they need to increase minimum wage in accordance to tax increases, otherwise the system has fundamental floors.
True as it's too late. But in hindsight having that extra money in our economy could of lightened the economic burden in the first place. It's all if's and but's though, so i guess we're just clutching at straws!
The problem with increasing minimum wage in line with taxes in that other employees wages have not been going up with tax increase ( direct or indirect ) so as soon as the gap is shortened between ourselfs and minimum wage earners we will all want a payrise , which the economy just can't sustain.
Yeah exactly - that in a sense is one of the main reasons behind the fundamental flaw. It's such a tricky situation - i guess if we had the answers we'd be rich
