Rhodes anyone?

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How does anyone ever play in the Premiership then?

You do realise Lambert, James Rodrigez, Adam Lallana used to play in the Championship?



We just signed Tom Ince from Blackpool, Harry MaGuire from League One and Robertson from a league which is probably the standard of the Championship.

Why did we sign Tom Ince? Surely it was based on his performances for Championship team Blackpool. (We where in for him before he went to Palace).

In fact. A lot of our team are Championship players who made the cut in the Premiership.


I think it is crazier and arrogant that people wouldn't consider looking in the Championship for players.

I take your point but I'm not sure James Rodriguez ever played in the Championship
 
If the price was right, I personally think Rhodes would be the best striker available of all that have been mentioned.
 
Some of you need to get real about transfer prices. You wont get any player who is Prem quality for anything less than 10m these days. Add to that the high wage demands and that is the game we are playing in at the moment. You may get foreign players for less but that's the realistic situation in UK. Ass someone stated earlier look at McCormack.
 
Some of you need to get real about transfer prices. You wont get any player who is Prem quality for anything less than 10m these days. Add to that the high wage demands and that is the game we are playing in at the moment. You may get foreign players for less but that's the realistic situation in UK. Ass someone stated earlier look at McCormack.

We got Snoddy for 8m...
 
Just as a side, didn't Bruce state before flying out to Belgium that 3 players would be coming in with the money from Longs transfer. Work out the sums if this Rhodes thing is supposed to be correct!
 
How does anyone ever play in the Premiership then?

You do realise Lambert, James Rodrigez, Adam Lallana used to play in the Championship?



We just signed Tom Ince from Blackpool, Harry MaGuire from League One and Robertson from a league which is probably the standard of the Championship.

Why did we sign Tom Ince? Surely it was based on his performances for Championship team Blackpool. (We where in for him before he went to Palace).

In fact. A lot of our team are Championship players who made the cut in the Premiership.


I think it is crazier and arrogant that people wouldn't consider looking in the Championship for players.

I agree with Punky. And anyway, isn't the bid something like £8m down and add-ons of £4m (depending on progress)?
 
Ah yes, because one transfer destroys everyone else's perspective.

Torres' sale certainly did that...

I think he's right.

£11m for a player from one Championship club to another is a significant transfer.

A (then) world class footballer from one massive club to another is always going to be a huge fee.

The McCormack deal has made a huge wave, just at the lower level, and sets a precedent for any Championship club now facing interest in their strikers.
 
I don't think it'll be Rhodes. When you look at the partnership SB brought in, Jelavic is the goal scorer and Long was shall we say the support. Long was doing most the running, chasing down, making runs and stretching the defence.

It worked well, I reckon Steve Bruce will want to replicate that, unless he's had a change in heart about formation and we start to use one up front then it's a Rhodesy type of player we want.

On another note, whilst we're looking to try replace Long, interesting to note there's plenty of potential 'goalscorer' replacements we could line up and barely any of the hard working and fast type forwards when usually the workers are common as muck and the goal scorers are gold dust.
 
I think he's right.

£11m for a player from one Championship club to another is a significant transfer.

A (then) world class footballer from one massive club to another is always going to be a huge fee.

The McCormack deal has made a huge wave, just at the lower level, and sets a precedent for any Championship club now facing interest in their strikers.

I think it was the prices we payed for donkavic and long that determined the price of the McCormack deal.
 
I think he's right.

£11m for a player from one Championship club to another is a significant transfer.

A (then) world class footballer from one massive club to another is always going to be a huge fee.

The McCormack deal has made a huge wave, just at the lower level, and sets a precedent for any Championship club now facing interest in their strikers.

Dwight Gayle went to Palace for 8.5m. Ulloa went to Leicester for 8m. These things happen. Fulham are essentially the size of a PL club. A Sheff Wednesday aren't going to expect 10m for one of their players from another C'ship club.
 
Long wanted to leave so our hand was forced.

Eh? Long was offered the move, unless there was something in his contract that forced us to offer him the move. But what Bruce seemed to say was that the money was too good for them to ignore, in which case it was his decision to present the offer.
 
Dwight Gayle went to Palace for 8.5m. Ulloa went to Leicester for 8m. These things happen. Fulham are essentially the size of a PL club. A Sheff Wednesday aren't going to expect 10m for one of their players from another C'ship club.

Gayle, as you say £8.5m from a Champ club to a newly promoted Prem club. Same with Ulloa.

This is two Championship clubs, one mediocre, and one a desperate team just relegated, which has broken records at that level.

Any club now, with a striker to sell, will think "Leeds got £11m from a Championship club for McCormack, we want at least that, more if you're Premier League".

It's changed the market.
 
Gayle, as you say £8.5m from a Champ club to a newly promoted Prem club. Same with Ulloa.

This is two Championship clubs, one mediocre, and one a desperate team just relegated, which has broken records at that level.

Any club now, with a striker to sell, will think "Leeds got £11m from a Championship club for McCormack, we want at least that, more if you're Premier League".

It's changed the market.

And clubs will say "No thanks" and go elsewhere, and those stupid clubs will lower their asking price. It's part of the negotiation process. Clubs will only end up paying what they are prepared to pay. If they aren't prepared to pay it then they won't.
 
Mental.

Rhodes is a proven Championship player.

Long is a proven Premier League player.

Not knocking Rhodes, but there is no guarantee at all he’d cut it in the top flight at all.

Crazy that people would vindicate such a move based on evidence of him scoring in the league below.

Records/stats in the Championship mean next to **** all in this division.

Ashbee was a decent Div 2 player but there was no no guarantee he’d cut it in Div 1 at all.
Ashbee was a decent Div 1 player but there was no no guarantee he’d cut it in the Championship at all.
Ashbee was a decent Championship player but there was no no guarantee he’d cut it in the top flight at all.
Enough said!
 
And clubs will say "No thanks" and go elsewhere, and those stupid clubs will lower their asking price. It's part of the negotiation process. Clubs will only end up paying what they are prepared to pay. If they aren't prepared to pay it then they won't.

So, therefore, less deals get done because...that deal changed the market.

It now means that where before, Championship clubs would normally sell, now they don't have to because they KNOW they can demand more. They can puff their chests out and make outrageous demands.

I just don't agree that they'll lower their prices. This is their ticket to keeping hold of their best players.
 
How does anyone ever play in the Premiership then?

You do realise Lambert, James Rodrigez, Adam Lallana used to play in the Championship?



We just signed Tom Ince from Blackpool, Harry MaGuire from League One and Robertson from a league which is probably the standard of the Championship.

Why did we sign Tom Ince? Surely it was based on his performances for Championship team Blackpool. (We where in for him before he went to Palace).

In fact. A lot of our team are Championship players who made the cut in the Premiership.


I think it is crazier and arrogant that people wouldn't consider looking in the Championship for players.

You do realise…none of them cost a club like ours 12m to find out if they were Premier League quality.

I’m all for a bargain from the lower leagues and Rhodes does look good, but we’re talking about spending 12m quid on a player who’s only played second tier.

People may have forgotten were we have come from as well as the perils of spending a huge whack of the budget on one, unproven, player.