Charlton is the best trip if the year in terms of the day out. But I couldn't be arsed and it would have set me back the best part of £300 if we had stayed over till Sunday.
We will certainly be by the chicane for the last race. Some of your cousins are among the best drivers.
Redders is a fcuking youth team coach and that's it ... Cellino is a crook who's out of his depth in English football and he needs to go ... as supporters we are actually fcuking useless as a collective in terms of giving the owners what for ... we always turn up, sell our away allocations out, and quietly accept the dross we get served up as long as there's one or two of "our kids" coming through ... then our talent gets sold, the owner pockets a wedge and before we know it our former Academy players turn up at ER and sink us ... oh look, he's proper Leeds him, how well he played against us, we should be proud ... fcuk off!!!!!!! Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Well at least this answers my question on where the Italian first teamers stood in this squad divide. Clearly Redfearn can't handle the situation, but none of the foreigners deserve to play for the club if they're going to feign injury to get out of playing. **** them. None of them are particularly special anyway. Play the kids, at least they actually want to play for Leeds.
Boro gone top wit a Spanish coach or manager and with what looks like a half team of non British players. They're doing something radically different to us. I'll wager they're better players. Simple as
Backed by Gibson(chairman) who cares about the club, don't know or care how many foreign players or managers are at other clubs, I'm not a football fan, I'm a LEEDS UNITED fan, blinkered..yes I am..
Nationalities don't matter shaks, it's the quality or lack of in our case that matters I firmly believe
My point was that Boro have a chairman who actually cares about the club he runs. If we had that, then I wouldn't care who played for us.
Looks like emotions are getting the better of some at the news 6 foreign players are injured. Then the fingers are pointed at Cellino, yet Cellino isn't in charge of the first team. I'm trying to understand when anything happens that fans don't like then Cellino is the scapegoat. C'mon lads, with respects to everyone, I can appreciate to a certain extent a showing of frustration for whatever reasons, there's been the off field shenanigans, and there's been the dressing room and on field shenanigans going on. We have no facts put before us other than 6 players are claiming to be unfit for the Charlton game. The media, as usual jump on the bandwagon and add such titles as "are Leeds players on strike" or "are Leeds players revolting", then people add their own emotional feelings and before you know it Cellino is to blame yet again. If it is a revolt, then there has to be an obvious reason, players don't just revolt for no apparent reason. Earlier in season we heard about how Warnock and Morison were involved in instigating a split in dressing room, then some began suspecting the same, not so long ago Sharp came out and revealed there was a big divide between the foreign players and the UK players, then there's the situation with some foreign players and Redders selections to throw into the pot. Also, not so long ago it was reported that some players had complained about the treatment they were receiving from Thommo, if this particular situation is true, and given the closeness of Thommo and Redders, then Redders would've known exactly what was going on, then of course there was the Thommo offensive remark/s incident. Given the above mentioned incidents, if all true, it was inevitable that something was going to erupt eventually. Let's not forget that Redders recently said that all players were working hard for him and putting in hard work, coincidence? could be, but Redders is around the players every day. If it is a revolt, then problems have obviously been ongoing for a while and Redders hasn't done anything to quell to the situation or unite the players. Should the players be responding this way? obviously not, they're professionals, is it a last ditch effort, that we've all been faced with from time to time, to get their feelings across? could be, I say could be because we don't have facts. Thing with Leeds United, and other clubs, is that most facts seem to rise to the surface after the fact. Are the players really injured or carrying niggling injuries? the players say yes, the media, and others seem to want it to be a revolt by siding with, and / or believing everything the media write. I am a Cellino supporter at this stage, and as many know I'm not a fan of Redders any more, but I think we need to know some facts in this situation before making judgement and pointing fingers looking for scapegoats.
I'm largely in line with you, LL. I still have faith in Cellino. Apparently if it rains over here, it's his fault! He has made mistakes. He will make many others. He brought in all of these foreign players for a couple of reasons - 1. He knew the market & knew it was cheaper than the UK market, & 2. He knew there was a transfer embargo coming up & he only got one bite at recruitment. This was tactically sound, given the financial situation & the upcoming embargo. He's not done as bad a job as some make out. He has already acknowledged that he misunderstood the quality of player required for the Championship, & I'm sure his future signings will be more successful. No way can you integrate 15 new faces successfully in 1 season, especially if you're in a foreign country. Now if you have 15 players living in the same block of flats, they're going to hang around together. If they're in a foreign country, you're absolutely damn right they will! I don't have a problem with that. English is clearly not easily spoken by them all. You only have to look at Silvestri & Antenucci's tweets in the last 12 hours to see that they don't have a great command of the language. It's up to Redders to make sure there is appropriate integration. It appears that he's failed, but I'm not 100% convinced that the situation amounts to a rift between the players, but simply a language/cultural separation. I can't recall what Sharp said exactly said about the situation, but perhaps he simply described the above, rather than the hotbed of antagonism inference that's been taken from his comments. Then again, perhaps he was just trying to put the foreigners on the spot, so he could get himself in the team. Wouldn't put it past him. He's already manipulated Redders on Twitter, so has a track record of looking after number one. I have lost all faith with Redders. Enough has been said about the man. his latest 'injury crisis' could have been handled better by a kid. The man's a buffoon, and a kid's coach at best. Time to go.
Agree WJ, Many are forgetting that Cellino would'ave been aware of the upcoming embargo, he did what he thought he had to do to prevent a financial meltdown and, prevent the club from getting a big fine at the time the embargo was put in place. Many are saying we should buy more expensive players, but they don't realise the embargo is still in place. Cellino said promotion in 2 seasons, not 1, I'm prepared to give him those two seasons although, if we lost in playoffs I wouldn't be looking at the owner to blame, the coach would have to accept some responsibility too. I looked at the Sharp comment several times for the same reasons you mentioned earlier WJ, I believe from memory it was said during an interview with either Popey or Phil Hay. What had me thinking was Sharp included the words "there is a big divide" in his comments. The Thommo sacking could be a blessing in disguise that showed Redders doesn't and can't cut it as a first team coach.
WJ yes Cellino did say he misunderstood the quality of player required but correct me if I am wrong, didn't he say that before he then went and signed Cani and the injured N'Goyi, no lesson learnt. Whilst we have an owner who signs inferior players and an owner who undermines coaches and attempts to influence team selection we are alway going to have a divide.
We're currently thirty something points behind auto promotion places. Does anyone seriously believe we have a grain of a chance of improving by that much in time for next season? Reality check, no chance
The answer to the question is probably not. However we did give every other team eight games head start with hockacock and the Darko fiasco, and then Redfearn managed to get the team to start their summer holidays in mid March. We need a new owner, one who will appoint a decent manager and let him get on with it. If both happen we start next year with the same points as everyone else. We would have hope, this season we had none by mid September....
All I ask is that we get a full season next year. Stay in contention for something till April and I don't mean relegation before the wallies comment
Again, I should preface this by saying I don't think Redfearn is the answer, but still: Redfearn and Thompson as a duo had a great record. There's no 'blessing in disguise'. We lost a decent assistant who had clearly had an impact with the squad, particularly defensively. Were we playing great football? No, but it's difficult to do so when the quality of players is substandard and we're relying on a nucleus of kids who will make mistakes purely out of inexperience. They had us getting results and picking up points. We had clean sheets in abundance and were in the top 2/3 of the form table. I find it difficult to believe your vendetta against Redders is so strong you'd rather his assistant be sacked to expose his flaws than just enjoy the fact we were picking up points consistently for the first time all season (and probably for the first time in the past 2/3 seasons). Sometimes a duo is what it takes to be successful - look at Brian Clough, he was useless with Peter Taylor but the two of them together were excellent. I don't think Redfearn is the man to get us promoted and I agree that he has many flaws as a coach, but I really doubt we're going to find a coach who, with the current squad, could accrue the same number of points as Redders did with Thompson. Given the standard of Cellino's previous appointments (and I include Redfearn in that, as he was hardly proven) I dread to think who the next head coach is.
