Having watched Balotelli's clash with Parker during todays match, where obviously the guy should have been red carded reducing them to ten men and thus been unable to later score in injury time. Spurs deserved to win that game and rightly will feel aggrieved, ok so Balotelli may face a retrospective ban but that's sweet f'all to teams like Man City and no help at all to Spurs, with so much involved in the game these days the punishment does the opposing team no good at all, so thinking about that, should there be some kind of point penalty, should video of incidents like this be viewed by an official who can directly report to the ref at the time or is there another option other than the one available now, what are your thoughts ?
Retrospective punishment
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I've always hated the man , hate him now & will bet I'll hate him in the future . If he done that to one of my team mates & I seen it , it would be on !! .... regardless what sport I would be playing . I wouldn't be able to help it . I knew he was the type to do such a thing , it was just a matter of time . Super dangerous without a thought toward what he could have done , out for the season if I was in charge .
Interesting take on it by Graham Poll:
"Referees have to decide if the contact was deliberate and usually consider whether contact would have been avoided if the player on the ground had been a team-mate. Replays were not definitive; Balotelli probably could have avoided that second contact but they also show that Webb might have looked away at the crucial moment.
If he did, which would have been a basic error for a referee with his experience, then the FA could ask Webb what he would have done had he seen the clash and Balotelli could be suspended again."
not definative? probably could have? Look at the video Graham. If that would have been a third yellow, I guess he would have been off
IF the FA/FIFA have got any balls they should pay as much attention to this type of thing as they do to the "two footed tackle". Similar thing happened recently in El Classico with Pepe. Agree with SB, a suspension wouldn't make a difference to ManC with their squad and a fine would have to be HUGE to affect them.
Torres tried a similar stamp on Saturday... but he missed
"Referees have to decide if the contact was deliberate and usually consider whether contact would have been avoided if the player on the ground had been a team-mate. Replays were not definitive; Balotelli probably could have avoided that second contact but they also show that Webb might have looked away at the crucial moment.
If he did, which would have been a basic error for a referee with his experience, then the FA could ask Webb what he would have done had he seen the clash and Balotelli could be suspended again."
not definative? probably could have? Look at the video Graham. If that would have been a third yellow, I guess he would have been off
IF the FA/FIFA have got any balls they should pay as much attention to this type of thing as they do to the "two footed tackle". Similar thing happened recently in El Classico with Pepe. Agree with SB, a suspension wouldn't make a difference to ManC with their squad and a fine would have to be HUGE to affect them.
Torres tried a similar stamp on Saturday... but he missed
Look at the way the cowardly thug then does a theatrical dive as if to appear he's the one being fouled, no place in football for this type of thuggery and the FA should start punishing the Team and the Player
personally, I'd drag him into the streets on London (from Manchester) and have him tarred and tarred again. **** the feathers.
Until now I quite like Balotelli and how odd he is, but this is a massive step too far and definitely intentional. Couldn't believe Lee Dixon on MOTD giving him the "benefit of the doubt", clear as day to me.
dont give poll any publicity H, he typifies what most people hate about referees, he has an ego and wants to be a celebrity, i've got no time for him.
as for balotelli, i think there should be video technology for incidents like this, a delay of say, 30 seconds, means the right decision can be made and spurs get to play against 10 men, whereas now, whoever play city next will benefit (if he's banned).
as for balotelli, i think there should be video technology for incidents like this, a delay of say, 30 seconds, means the right decision can be made and spurs get to play against 10 men, whereas now, whoever play city next will benefit (if he's banned).
Not to mention the 3 points that probably wouldn't have been city's, firmly believe that to stamp (no pun intended) this out there should be a point deduction system
I still don't understand my we can't dock points for this sort of thing. He's obviously stamped on him, therefore should have been sent off, therefore would not have been on the pitch to be 'scissored' down in the box and then arrogantly slot home the winning penalty.
Don't be surprised at Dixon's response. He hates anything posiitve about Spurs. Good job Lawrenson wasn't on there as he would have recommended booking Parker for inciting Balotelli.
Sussex made a good comment about the theatrical dive once he had assaulted Parker, 2 steps and fall over. What an absolute knob!!!
Mind you if Defoe had done his job properly then the Balotelli incident wouldn't have quite so much prominence.
Sussex made a good comment about the theatrical dive once he had assaulted Parker, 2 steps and fall over. What an absolute knob!!!
Mind you if Defoe had done his job properly then the Balotelli incident wouldn't have quite so much prominence.
I've said it before concerned, until the team suffers as a result of illegal activity on a field (thuggery, diving, professional fouls), managers won't do anything about it. Until a team loses points, Mancini, Wenger, Fergusson, et al will turn a blind eye or even encourage it. If everytime a player dived in the box they got fined 3 points, managers would soon put a stop to it.
Well Spurs were effectively docked points, no doubt in my mind at all that Spurs would have come away with at LEAST a point had he been red carded, with stakes so high in the game these days something needs to be done.
its all subjective, you cant say that to a panel on the FA or whoever deals with it, i agree its not ideal that spurs dont benefit from a red card but to dock city points is a joke, teams get a 10 point deduction for going into administration, which is 1000x more serious IMO.
Here's another angle on the points deduction. Teams get deducted points when fielding ineligible players. How about the retrospective action being applied and building in the proviso if the incident would usually warrant a red card the deem the offending player as ineligible from that point on. If he then scores wipe that goal out. Realistic? Probably not. 
Having seen the incident I think the FA should apply the same rule as they did against Cantona and his infamous kung fu kick and ban him for at least 12 months. He not only attacked a fellow professional it was premeditated because he appears to look at his handiwork. The man is a complete cock!
Having seen the incident I think the FA should apply the same rule as they did against Cantona and his infamous kung fu kick and ban him for at least 12 months. He not only attacked a fellow professional it was premeditated because he appears to look at his handiwork. The man is a complete cock!I think football needs to start laying the law down! Look at rugby you do something wrong even if the referee sees it you can still be hit with a ban!!! For example eye gouging do that and your banned for months and I'll give an example the French scrum half got 6 month ban...could you imagine the FA doing that they soon stop all thes crap!!!!! I love football but sadly it's not the sport I use to play when I was growing up!!
Diving is another issue too me it's cheating n should result in a ban what the difference with that and the rugby team who used a blood capsule to bring a kicker on to kick a penalty get a HUGE fine and player/coaches banned for 2 years...in football nothing
What's the difference it's both in the category of deceiving match officials to benefit the team!!
But sadly football isn't run by FIFA or the FA it's fact the players have the power...you imagine the FA Banning ppl for months and years???
Diving is another issue too me it's cheating n should result in a ban what the difference with that and the rugby team who used a blood capsule to bring a kicker on to kick a penalty get a HUGE fine and player/coaches banned for 2 years...in football nothing
What's the difference it's both in the category of deceiving match officials to benefit the team!!
But sadly football isn't run by FIFA or the FA it's fact the players have the power...you imagine the FA Banning ppl for months and years???