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Hey, we've all got our opinion and I respect you's both but I think it's bonkers to dismiss 2 players who between them this season have 37 goals and 22 assists. There's no guarantee we'll sign players who will better that.
Don't think we'll have a choice with Wyke. Think he's off to boro. Mcgeady may well price himself of staying too. Recruitment team have had months to look at players. Here's hoping they get a few gems to go with the younger players we already have
Get Neil on the guinness and weights over the summer and he could solve a big problem too.
 
GK
New number 1
Patterson

LB
Hume
New signing

RB
New signing
Onien

CB
New signing
New signing
Wright
Flanagan
Xhemajli
Willis (Out most of the season)

Centre midfield
New signing.
New signing.
Dan Neil
Winchester

Attacking midfield
Embleton
Hawkes

Left wing
McGeady
New signing

Right wing
Diamond
Gooch

Striker
Stewart
Obrien
New signing

Around 9 New signings (if O'Nien and Mcgeady renew)

Hopefully Dobson and Grigg will be sold.
I'd move Obrien on but with Johnson seemingly staying he seems like one of his favourites.

Released

Burge
Matthews
McFazdean
McLaughlin
Scowen
Power
Leadbitter

Wyke will sign for Boro imo

Jones and Sanderson won't be re signed.
 
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this is my squad for next year. need 13 signings.
 
So apparently Burge's contract is / has been renewed automatically. I am guessing due to number of starts like McGeady.

In this scenario my guess is that we don't sign a new keeper unless Burge is sold, and we have Patterson and Burge competing for the no.1 spot.
 
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I'd make a few tweaks and bring some more of the youth through. 10-11 new signings though, peinarily theough the aoine of the team and at right back

GK
Burge
Patterson
new reserve keeper

LB
Hume
New signing

RB
2 x New signings

CB
New signing
New signing
McLaughlin
*Younger
*Almond
Xhemajli
Willis (Out most of the season)

Centre midfield
New signing.
New signing.
O'Nien
Winchester

Attacking midfield
New signing
Hawkes
Neil

Left wing
McGeady
Embleton

Right wing
Diamond
Gooch

Striker
Stewart
Obrien
New Signing
New Signing
*Harris?
 
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GK
New number 1
Patterson

LB
Hume
New signing

RB
New signing
Onien

CB
New signing
New signing
Wright
Flanagan
Xhemajli
Willis (Out most of the season)

Centre midfield
New signing.
New signing.
Dan Neil
Winchester

Attacking midfield
Embleton
Hawkes

Left wing
McGeady
New signing

Right wing
Diamond
Gooch

Striker
Stewart
Obrien
New signing

Around 9 New signings (if O'Nien and Mcgeady renew)

Hopefully Dobson and Grigg will be sold.
I'd move Obrien on but with Johnson seemingly staying he seems like one of his favourites.

Released

Burge
Matthews
McFazdean
McLaughlin
Scowen
Power
Leadbitter

Wyke will sign for Boro imo

Jones and Sanderson won't be re signed.
I'd much rather sign 2 mew RB and play Onien in his natural midfield position
 
So apparently Burge's contract is / has been renewed automatically. I am guessing due to number of starts like McGeady.

In this scenario my guess is that we don't sign a new keeper unless Burge is sold, and we have Patterson and Burge competing for the no.1 spot.
Be happy with that unless we could get that lad from Stoke on a season long loan and get Patterson out to L1/2 for game time
 
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Hey, we've all got our opinion and I respect you's both but I think it's bonkers to dismiss 2 players who between them this season have 37 goals and 22 assists. There's no guarantee we'll sign players who will better that.
Fair point, but I think this season has been a massive anomaly for Wyke and I'd be amazed if he got 15 goals next season as Johnson will want to play a different way. We need more pace and mobility up front.
 
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So apparently Burge's contract is / has been renewed automatically. I am guessing due to number of starts like McGeady.

In this scenario my guess is that we don't sign a new keeper unless Burge is sold, and we have Patterson and Burge competing for the no.1 spot.

I have been thinking about Burge. To me he is a good shot stopper and he is good in 1 on 1 situations. He can be caught on his line for crosses though and I like keepers who come and claim things, which can give defenders a lot more confidence. I therefore hope that we prioritise someone like that and then let a new keeper battle with Patterson and or Burge. If we wanted to shift Burge I am sure that there would be takers at league 1 level for a modest fee.

Patterson showed last night what he can do. I would like to think that he can be a part of the squad next year.
 
Certainly think we'll see a big clear out over the summer. The squad as a whole probably finished about where we should have done, ability-wise.

I'm not sure about this idea that some people have that bringing through the u23s en masse is going to improve us though. If you look at Diamond, who is arguably the best of them, he's made something like 34 first team appearances and scored twice and got 3 or 4 assists. The notoriously hot and cold Maguire has made about the same number of appearances but scored and created more and Jones has similar stats to Diamond from far fewer appearances. That's not to say that they shouldn't be being brought into the first team set-up. Hawkes, Diamond and definitely Embleton should be getting chances next season but I think we're going to have to bring in a lot of new faces. I certainly hope we won't be relying on the youngsters.


Who does. From this post you seem to discount Younger and Patterson, and favour Maguire over Diamond, laughable.
 
Who does. From this post you seem to discount Younger and Patterson, and favour Maguire over Diamond, laughable.
No, that's not what I've done at all. I've stated that, based on goalscoring and assist stats, Diamond hasn't been as effective as Maguire over the course of this season. I made that statement to indicate that bringing through the youngsters isn't going to bring about an immediate improvement to the side. That doesn't mean that I prefer Maguire or that I don't want Diamond in the side, it was simply to point out that these are still developing players who haven't reached their peak yet. Hopefully, they will over the next season or two and will prove to be better than the current set of senior pros.

I didn't mention Younger or Patterson in the post that you quoted so I don't know how you can determine that I've dismissed them. In other posts, I've stated quite clearly that I hope that they are in and around the first team squad next season. Based on what I've seen of them, particularly last night, they are clearly players with significant potential. Whether they are going to make it as first team players remains to be seen but, hopefully, they will.

My disagreements with you about the u23s aren't because I don't want them to come through or even because I don't think they are good enough. I have disagreed with you because I think you calling Johnson a 'clown' for not taking the risk of selecting these unproven players and saying that taking Younger off is the worst decision you've ever seen, is completely irrational. I've been surprised at your stance on Johnson because you are usually one of the posters that I respect the most.

Hopefully, we can agree that these young players have a lot of potential, leave it at that, and put any ill feeling behind us :emoticon-0150-hands
 
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So apparently Burge's contract is / has been renewed automatically. I am guessing due to number of starts like McGeady.

In this scenario my guess is that we don't sign a new keeper unless Burge is sold, and we have Patterson and Burge competing for the no.1 spot.
I would be surprised if he was staying but I'd be telling Burge he is not going to play next year. Find another club
 
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Patterson is out of contract as well according to Phil Smith (echo journo) on the latest wise men say podcast. :emoticon-0106-cryin
 
Over the road Tyrion Lannister is saying that a player is having a medical today.
The betting seems to be for Owen Dale from Crewe.
 
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Over the road Tyrion Lannister is saying that a player is having a medical today.
The betting seems to be for Owen Dale from Crewe.
He is highly rated and he seemed to be on the list of championship teams.