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Reports:'Arsenal open negotiations over Vertonghen'

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by Cb, May 1, 2012.

  1. Bergkamp a Dutch master

    Bergkamp a Dutch master New Member

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    'he is still capable of turning in a five-star performance at least 50% of the time'

    I can't think of a single 5-star performance. 50% of the time he has been poor, the rest acceptable no more.
     
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  2. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    I can think of 4 that cannot be argued against, you must have a defective memory.

    The most stark example is the 4-4 against Newcastle. Injured when we were 4-0 up on 48 minutes, replaced with Squillacci. The rest as they say is history.
    Last season vs Man City 3-0.
    Last season vs Man City 0-0
    Last season vs Chelsea just after Christmas 3-1.

    This year he has not played much in the middle, so I think eveyone forgets.
     
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  3. Arsenal4life

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    Terrible logic sorry. If we loaned Djorrou to someone like sunderland he wouldnt play against us and would give sunderland more chance vs the other top sides should he end up being top class (which he could ofc).
     
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  4. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    What if Newcastle or Spurs wanted him?
     
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  5. Arsenal4life

    Arsenal4life Well-Known Member

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    Then we wouldnt loan to them.
     
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  6. ToledoTrumpton

    ToledoTrumpton Well-Known Member

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    Can you with certainty forecast which team next year will play above themselves, like Newcastle/Spurs did this year? Will it be Sunderland perhaps? Everton/Fulham maybe?
     
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  7. Arsenal4life

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    If we are behind sunderland then I dont think it will matter where we are. Same with newcaslte this year. They arent that good. They will come 6th as they will get hammered by the chavs and city. Again if we come behidn newcastle this year then thats just depressing.
     
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  8. Cb

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    Apparently we tried but he wanted to stay in halland for one more year
     
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  9. Cb

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    I would rather vertonghen supplement song at dm and gibbs.at.left back so that we can focus.on getting an am and forget about mvila or any other dm
     
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  10. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    I don't think JD makes a particularly good RB, but he's a fairly decent back up CB. I've been saying all season that I think we need to add another top quality CB, so that we have a first choice pairing and at least as good second choice pairing. If we get Vertonghen, we'll have Kos, TV, Mert and Vert to choose from - it should give us adequate cover across the back.
     
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  11. Cb

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    vertonghen response to a journalist question
    journalist: whenever i mention arsenal you smile
    vertonghen: its a club of calibre ofcourse i smile
     
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  12. ...and some others <whistle>
     
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  13. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Repeating what Wenger says doesn't count Jayram <laugh>
     
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  14. Murray

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    Vertonghen can also play as a holding midfielder, so not really a problem there.
     
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    They are top class its the attacking system that leaves them very exposed.
     
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    Nope, I dont buy that.

    Arteta--Song--Rosicky is a solid midfield with better defensive qualities than many of our previous teams. They may not have the offensive quality of the likes of Fabregas, Nasri etc.. but defensively and in terms of workrate they offer more protection than previous systems.

    Our defence is not as good as people are making out.

    Vertonghen would be a big step in the right direction though.
     
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  17. Agreed.

    Both TV and Kos have some flaws that cost us goals, Sagna is not that quick and is not hard to go past, and Gibbs is often caught forward (as is Santos). We have lost a lot of goals through basic defesnive errors.
     
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  18. theHotHead

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    I think its a bit of both, the defence not being as a good as is made out AND a set of players in front of them who leave them exposed. How anyone can claim Song - Arteta - Rosicky is a solid midfield with better defensive qualities than previous teams is beyond me. Better than which previous Arsenal teams ???

    I don't look at our defence and have any kind of faith they will keep a clean sheet, no confidence at all.

    Djourou makes too many mistakes, if you want a squad defender he can't make mistakes but should be of a slightly lower standard to the first choice defenders. Djourou can have games where he is at least as good as our first choice defenders .. but he is mistake prone. Its a dilemma.
     
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  19. Bergkamp a Dutch master

    Bergkamp a Dutch master New Member

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    No dilemma HH - he is simply not good enough.
     
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  20. I can forecast which teams will not be in the top 6 next year with 100% accuracy.
     
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