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Report: Luton Town 3-0 Bristol City

Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by wizered, Oct 19, 2019.

  1. Cliftonville

    Cliftonville Well-Known Member

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    Are you going to say that chants v teams are not based on regional differences? Why do fans sing songs about Bristol City being Welsh and tractors? These differences can include demographics.

    Chants are akin to two kids. They are frequently responses to what the other fans start and do. This is a common dynamic of football crowds.
     
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  2. Red Alert

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    Could you tell us what it is like then I can decide if I should be offended? Happens very regularly but im not sure what the correct response should be.
     
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  3. Oldsparkey

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    Well it's a matter of opinion of course, but it beats wearing a smock, smelling of straw and cropping turnips. <ok>
     
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  4. Loathsneyd

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    What's regional about singing about Tommy Robinson and singing England to another English club. These songs were sung because of the race of the people surrounding the ground ergo Racist!
     
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  5. Red Alert

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    Don't know that one. Hear this one.

    I cant read and I cant write but I can a drive a tractor im a Bristol City fan and I'm a ****ing ****er.

    Millwall like that one a lot. quite like it myself charming and quite tuneful and I like to wave my arms at Wall from that top deck.

    why is that racist? is singing small town in wales to Bristol City fans racist as well? its all silly bollocks and people want to calm down. when fans sing the above at us about farms do they believe we are all farm workers who cant read? no same as City fans who sing certain songs about Luton or Leicester know they are not in asia.
     
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  6. Cliftonville

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    Racism is about intent, power, prejudice ..
    Those are regional differences. Tommy Robinson is a blockhead/hero.Adolf Hitler depending on perception and from Luton. There is a perception that Luton is different to other parts of England. You make a decision that this is racist …

    So were the Luton fans being racist by singing songs about Wales to fans from England who have a differing ethnic origin?
     
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  7. Loathsneyd

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    Not interested in this it's an excuse that apologists use
     
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  8. Cliftonville

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    Its a point about social constructs. It is relevant. If there is equality the Luton fans were also being racist or both parties were not.
     
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  9. Loathsneyd

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    Utter tosh it's our fans that are in the media spotlight being investigated by the police and being condemned by our owner and manager
     
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  10. Cliftonville

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    It is with respects not tosh. Racism is about social construct. The Luton fans are relevant. Supporters of two teams were engaged in and I dislike this word banter. That is the context.
     
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  11. Loathsneyd

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    If You honestly think that what the Luton fans were singing to us were as racist as we were singing to them then I give up. You probably still think there is nothing wrong with gollywogs, love thy neighbor and the Black and White Minstrels either?
     
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  12. Cliftonville

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    Your last sentence is a different topic.

    No I do not feel what either set of fans was singing was racist. I have attempted to a make a parallel. If the Luton fans were not being racist surely the reasoning should be applied to the Bristol City fans chants in equal measure.

    You appear to think differently and I am enquiring why?

    Why do Luton fans calls us Welsh? Why do fans of other clubs calls us farmers who cannot read? If this is merely banter why is small town in Asia different?
     
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  13. Loathsneyd

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    To be honest I give up arguing racism with someone who I'm guessing has never experienced it is probably a late middle aged white male who probably reads The Mail and voted Brexit is pretty pointless
     
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  14. Cliftonville

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    Yes I have experienced racism. I lived in South Africa and there racism is frequently and violently directed at people of all colours and backgrounds. That comes from a very different position than banterous (if that is a word) football fans.

    An argument would indicate a animated exchange of views. I feel, and hope I have been polite. There has been little exchange of views on one side.Tosh,I give up, not interested, I give up and your middle aged white Daily Mail reader comment is deflection. I am more likely to read the Guardian than the Mail or any other paper but unashamedly did vote Brexit ...I think I understand what you are implying. Tut tut ..
     
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    I'm offended that people get offended being from Wales.
    I love the fact that I'm from Wales.
     
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  16. Red Alert

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    Theres is a quiz in this

    Why do Cardiff fans get called sheep shaggers?
    Why do fans sing your just a small town in Wales at Bristol City?
    Why do fans sing your just a small town in Asia at Luton?

    Lets hear your answers and remember God is watching you. I got three..
     
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    My, obviously from a Daily Mail and late middle age point of view, is it's banter.
     
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    I'll have you know Wales has it's own internal racism.

    The Jacks are all peg sellers and live in caravans. Newport is the capital of ASBO land. The northeners are all gogs and regard Liverpool as their capital. The remote mid Wales inbreds are best avoided lest they abduct you into their breeding programme, and the west coastal strip dwellers are the Druid role models for Brittania.

    Ahh, such a wonderful cosmopolitan land. All that diversity in such a small country. No wonder we all take comfort in the sheep....<laugh>
     
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  19. Red Alert

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    have a friend living in Bristol formerly from Newport who is adamant that wearing white socks is traditional dress for blokes from the Valleys. "You can see them, you know where they come from , white socks, VALLEYS!" gets quite animated by it!!
     
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