Yes. You start off accusing the supporters of basing their assumptions on little more than wishful thinking and then follow your BS with your own assumptions and wishful thinking. Cretin.
Replacements for Wenger
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Yes. You start off accusing the supporters of basing their assumptions on little more than wishful thinking and then follow your BS with your own assumptions and wishful thinking. Cretin.
Yes. You start off accusing the supporters of basing their assumptions on little more than wishful thinking and then follow your BS with your own assumptions and wishful thinking. Cretin.
Calm down, you might blow a blood vessel.
Very calm - just calling you out for the hypocrite that you are
Only one person getting abusive and that ain't me. Stay off the red bulls
I really, really don't want Moyes, he has been running a club very similar to Arsenal, at least it was when Wenger took over, and has done nothing with it. As far as I am concerned he flatters to deceive. I just don't think he is that good. He is just another member of the Fat Sam, MoN, Redknapp brigade that win a cup every now and again, but really just don't have the ability to build a top 4 club.
I don't feel that is a step forward. We need another highly respected technician. My first choice would be Gus Poyet. What he is doing at Brighton is amazing. Talk about doing more with less.
I don't feel that is a step forward. We need another highly respected technician. My first choice would be Gus Poyet. What he is doing at Brighton is amazing. Talk about doing more with less.
A bit of a curve ball!!
He's certainly been very good for them He is lacking a lot in experience though - winning titles, working with top players, managing in the Champions League. He's young and progressive though. Is he someone you would genuinely like to see at Arsenal if Wenger walked away?
A bit of a curve ball!!
I think so, Wenger was not a big deal when he arrived here. I think we need that underdog, give a guy a chance, feel for a new manager, somebody we can all pull for. It will be so that a top 4 finish would be seen as an achievement. The fans might be more patient as well.
Arsenal were always about being underdogs and playing good football (apart from a blip in the GG years). We need to get back to that, and stop getting so wrapped up in winning. We want to get players in who want to play for Arsenal because we are the good guys, not because we pay more or have more chance of winning a trophy.
This is not quite true, wenger took Monaco the semi finals of the champions league in 1994, the attitude of the one sentence that I have quoted was typical of the British mentality at the time regarding football. If it wasn't done with an English club it was not worth knowing, even the likes of SAF got nowhere near the semi final of the champions league until 1996, so to claim that he was not a big deal is misguided, he was not a big deal in England, but in European football he was well regarded
Yes, he was, but he was by no means a Mourinho or a Benitez.
I agree that Poyet is far less experienced than Wenger was, but I want that underdog feel back.
The thing that strikes me most about the majority of names put forward is that:
A) They've very little experience - Poyet, de Boer
B) They've no experience of winning trophies - Moyes, Pellegrini, Emery, Poyet
C) Their reputation is largely for overachieving with smaller clubs with less spending power - Moyes, Pellegrini, Emery, Poyet, Spalletti, Laudrup
D) The only trophy winning experience they have is with big fish in small ponds - Laudrup, de Boer, Spalletti to a degree
E) The only trophy winning experience they have is with clubs with huge spending power - Schuster, Spalletti
The only two outstanding candidates are Hitzfeld and Klopp, though the former is a little off-putting due to his age and the lack of club management since 2008. His record is exemplary though.
It makes me wonder: are we saying we're happy for comparatively inexperienced men to come in and do the job because we can't attract bigger names, or is it the case that the bigger names are simply unavailable and the only thing left to do is take a punt?
A) They've very little experience - Poyet, de Boer
B) They've no experience of winning trophies - Moyes, Pellegrini, Emery, Poyet
C) Their reputation is largely for overachieving with smaller clubs with less spending power - Moyes, Pellegrini, Emery, Poyet, Spalletti, Laudrup
D) The only trophy winning experience they have is with big fish in small ponds - Laudrup, de Boer, Spalletti to a degree
E) The only trophy winning experience they have is with clubs with huge spending power - Schuster, Spalletti
The only two outstanding candidates are Hitzfeld and Klopp, though the former is a little off-putting due to his age and the lack of club management since 2008. His record is exemplary though.
It makes me wonder: are we saying we're happy for comparatively inexperienced men to come in and do the job because we can't attract bigger names, or is it the case that the bigger names are simply unavailable and the only thing left to do is take a punt?
What players are there like that though? Most players are either concerned with huge pay packets or personal glory.
The huge pay packets we can do nothing about, but the personal glory is on offer. Winning a championship with Arsenal, as an underdog, is far more glorious than winning as a sometimes bench player on a team of galacticas.
In my view the bigger names just are not going to be able to win any more than Wenger can. As people point out, we just don't have an "A" list team. Even if we magically produced a teamful of A list players we couldn't retain them.
"Survive" is not the word. He will just stay. Survival needs when manager's job is under threat or being questioned by the board and the owner. The situation is not even remotely that. Both Kroenke and the board are praying for Wenger to stay. All that "will he survive" hype has been created by the press and fans. Only the huge financial loss or/and empty stadium can possibly force Wenger out. It is not going to happen.
Thre is one man who will decide if Wenger stays or not, and this is Stan Kroenke. Current board has to independent role here, since most of them are useless old farts afraid to lose their seats. And as Kroenlke said publically - even a couple of seasons in the middle of the table is not a disaster ( and he said it when Arsenal was 14th !!!), because it can happen to any club. So i think Wenger's fate is linked with AFC balance sheets much much more than the cleub's table position. And Wenger understands it perfectly. Hence his transfer policy.
Very true Amir.
The only situation in which they would push Wenger out would be if they were out of the Top4 race with say 3 games to go & all 3 games had record low attendances. That seems to me to be the only possible way the Club would push him out. I hugely hope that doesn't happen.
The only situation in which they would push Wenger out would be if they were out of the Top4 race with say 3 games to go & all 3 games had record low attendances. That seems to me to be the only possible way the Club would push him out. I hugely hope that doesn't happen.
Agree with that.
Besides we have built a reputation as a 'footballing team' and we need to continue that.
This is why I think Rijkaard could be a good choice.
