He would improve us in the league and domestic cups. He would also give the players a good rollicking when neccessary!
Replacements for Wenger
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He would improve us in the league and domestic cups. He would also give the players a good rollicking when neccessary!
All this talk about replacements is premature, since Wenger will undoubtedly stay if Spurs are beaten on 3rd March and Arsenal secure a top four finish in the league.
In fact, the latter is quite likely, judging by the fixture list. Spurs have more difficult matches to face - (Liverpool, Everton, Chelsea & Man City), whilst Arsenal's toughest fixtures are against Everton and Man Untd.
So, my prediction is that Wenger will survive and fans will look forward to a better year with more mature players.
In fact, the latter is quite likely, judging by the fixture list. Spurs have more difficult matches to face - (Liverpool, Everton, Chelsea & Man City), whilst Arsenal's toughest fixtures are against Everton and Man Untd.
So, my prediction is that Wenger will survive and fans will look forward to a better year with more mature players.
Moyes is possible, but he doesn't have the Champions League experience, or the experience of winning anything, or the experience of developing Youth.
de Boer is 42, and played for Ajax, Barcelona, and Rangers (experience of British Football) amongst others. He won 5 League Titles with Ajax, 1 with Barca, and won the CL too with Ajax, plus numerous other trophies.
He ran the Ajax Youth Academy for a while - has experience of bringing through great Youth. Now their 1st Team Manager, he has guided them to 2 League Titles on the trot, and they are only 3 points off the top in their quest for a 3rd straight.
He plays good football, he is young, progressive, a proven winner both as a player and manager, and embraces the mantra of great, attacking football. He is the perfect fit for Arsenal.
de Boer is 42, and played for Ajax, Barcelona, and Rangers (experience of British Football) amongst others. He won 5 League Titles with Ajax, 1 with Barca, and won the CL too with Ajax, plus numerous other trophies.
He ran the Ajax Youth Academy for a while - has experience of bringing through great Youth. Now their 1st Team Manager, he has guided them to 2 League Titles on the trot, and they are only 3 points off the top in their quest for a 3rd straight.
He plays good football, he is young, progressive, a proven winner both as a player and manager, and embraces the mantra of great, attacking football. He is the perfect fit for Arsenal.
Your still in the FA Cup and sitting 3rd in the league, I don't see why your situation is THAT bad. Plus we all know you will make signings to improve and move forward in the summer, so the situation isn't that desperate.
Compare with us, out of all competitions, and scrapping for 4th, with it being highly unlikely we make any real improvements in the summer to move forward from this current regression.
Not forgetting they just won the Champions league. Talk about ungrateful. The last time we went close to winning something big was back in 2008. Other than that we've lost a Carling cup final. That's it...
Liverpool fan in peace.
I feel sorry for Wenger. He has been great for you and I do not think it is his fault that you are in the position you are in. But I do not see the same spirit in him any more.
If you are willing to take a manager who could be good in the long run, with a nice style, but who may need time to build I think you could do well with Roberto Martinez or Roberto Di Matteo. Roberto Mancini may be available in the summer to. He could be good for you.
The fact that they are all called Roberto is a complete coincidence.
I have said in the past that Guardiola would be perfect for you. But he is going to Bayern Munich now.
I feel sorry for Wenger. He has been great for you and I do not think it is his fault that you are in the position you are in. But I do not see the same spirit in him any more.
If you are willing to take a manager who could be good in the long run, with a nice style, but who may need time to build I think you could do well with Roberto Martinez or Roberto Di Matteo. Roberto Mancini may be available in the summer to. He could be good for you.
The fact that they are all called Roberto is a complete coincidence.
I have said in the past that Guardiola would be perfect for you. But he is going to Bayern Munich now.
I think Wenger has been treated really harshly by some of our fans. The bloke has basically kept Arsenal in the champions league and top 4 for the last 8 years, despite massive financial restrictions, a break up of the board and the dismantling of the invincibles. I'm not saying it's all rosy, far from it, we need to spend on this squad and strengthen it. For me if Wenger is given the cash this summer to properly rebuild, then he is still the man for the job.
And if Wenger refuses to buy, then what? You're asking a man who deeply believes in his philosophy and hasn't budged an inch for many years, to go out and buy some big time players. It goes against everything he wants to do with his career and Arsenal. If we manage to scrape that 4th place, expect the very same thing the following season. I am so sure of it that I will give it the Benitez super phakt seal of approval. It's a shame really, i really wanted him to succeed and he nearly went close a few years ago back in 08. Had he not been so stubborn, he could have still won a few more things. It's just too late for him Piskie, he's just too old and too stubborn to do another rebuild.
The way I see it, Wenger has performed a minor miracle keeping this team in the champions league over the last few years. In the face of the board selling our best players, the stadium move, related financial restrictions, obscene spending from City and chelsea, the break up of the board, a takeover and nearly everybody saying that he's lost the plot.
What I think people mistake, is what Wenger says in public and what he thinks in private. There is no way he would ever come out and say, 'my players aren't good enough' so he has to back them. He will never come out and say the board don't make enough money available. But privately, he must know that they are not good enough to compete with Utd etc.
Don't forget, it was Wenger who brought players like Henry, Pires, Vieira, Cole, Cesc, Nasri, RVP etc to the club and moulded them into world beaters. It was the board who sold them, against Wenger's wishes. If, as they are saying now, that the money is available to spend, then I want to see that commitment honoured in the summer and Wenger given the chance to properly rebuild with quality players.
If that doesn't happen and we go into another season ill equipped and repeat the same mistakes, then we need to look at a radical shake up from the top down.
Look who he has bought since. How come he can't make a killing in the transfer market anymore?
There are good players out there available for small money but Wenger isn't finding them, instead we get Gervinho, Chamahk, Arshavin etc.
And if we do get linked to good players who want to come to us, we try to get them on the cheap or we don't even want them and they end up going elsewhere (Mata, Ribery, Verthongen etc)
Yes he did well. Yes he had restrictions. But according to the Board, his restrictions as of around 3 years ago are self-made. Money has been available, and it was available in January, he refused to spend. We are continually told there is money. Continually none is spent. Therefore it must be Wenger refusing to spend it.
Yes he bought those players, but who since? Who has come in and excelled? Cazorla? Certainly none of the defense, and that's down to Coaching, which Wenger presides over. Why wasn't Keown kept on after he guided Arsenal to 10 clean sheets in the CL a few seasons ago? Why has the "Bould Effect" been so short lived? Why is the defense a continual disorganised shambles? All of these things require the answer of: Arsene Wenger.
I'm yet to see anyone provide any shred of evidence that would suggest that Wenger will "spend big" this summer. He never has before. Likewise, there's not a shred of evidence that he will start actually coaching the defense in any way, or reorganise and shake things up. Will he even drop players? It'll be very interesting to see how many of the Bayern lot start against Villa. My bet is at least 8 / 11. That's due to a poor squad, and who is responsible for the squad? Remove him this summer and a new manager has the entire summer to plot, plan, rebuild, retrain, reorganise. Next summer and there is a World Cup in the way that will massively affect the plans.
It's 8 years since a trophy. That's HALF of his reign. He's had a good half, and a poor half. Give him one more year, and the good times will officially have been shorter than the bad. He was a decade ahead of his time, now he's seemingly a decade behind. He didn't progress, he stayed at that one point. It made him revolutionary, a visionary, le Professeur, now he's old news. Other managers are available. Wenger is failing. There's absolutely zero point in proceeding with him at the helm. It is for the sake of nostalgia, and nostalgia does far more harm than good.
Spot on mate, I couldn't agree more. Quite a few are driven by past nostalgias. I too was guilty of this in the past. First it was the financial restrictions, but as you pointed out, these were dispelled by the board a few years ago. What stood Wenger out in the past was his progressiveness, but other managers learnt from him and he was ultimately left behind. He refuses to adapt, to change. Why do you think Fergie continues to be so successful? He hasn't bought massively, compared to other teams, but he's still managed to still win and win big. He is on course with another Premiership title, beating a Man City side with a great squad. He's constantly changing his tactics and the way he approaches the game.
Piskie and a few others are basing their assumptions on little more than wishful thinking. He is not going to buy big and nor will he change anything. It will be the very same thing we see next season, that we see this season. He has to change, he has to accept that he was wrong and get help from others. But he won't do this, he is Arsene Wenger.
lol read the sentence preceding the highlighted one and ask yourself - am I a hypocrite?
The answer is quite evident.