Religion is Bullsh*t, Get over it, and support science.

The basic idea of treating others as you would wish to be treated yourself is fine.
If we all lived by that mantra, then no other morals or principles are really needed.

I've often heard that the Quran is unchanged from Muslims.
Leaving aside the alteration that translation can bring to a text, there are some suggestions that early copies of the Quran aren't identical in their content.
I won't direct you to any sites, but feel free to Google it yourself.

They could easily help without going to war, though.
The Palestinian people could be aided in different ways, financially for example.

I think that a lot of the countries in the Middle East are very happy to see the Israeli/Palestine conflict drag on for as long as possible.
It gives their people an enemy to focus on.
That way they're less likely to look at their own governments.

 

Why would you single out satanism? LeVeyan satanism is a recognised religion these days is it not? Personally I think its a group for failed heavy metal rock stars but I don't see why going on your previous posts that you would single out this religions beliefs as worthless yet we are to take your religion seriously.

You have a pre-conception of it based on its name.

 

You've read about it? What have you read exactly?

 

Depends on how you seen Satan. The "traditional" view is that he is the opposite of good in which case then people that follow Satan (whether or not Satan is a physical entity or not) are doing things that are not only sinful but also morally wrong. You don't need religion to tell you (with most things) what is right or wrong.

 

Actually most of them are atheists of a kind. They don't worship satan as a deity or believe in any other deity for that matter. The satanic bible was written to give a guideline as to how to live your life and there's no devil worshipping etc. So clearly you have read jack **** and maybe watched a little too much buffy the vampire slayer

Like I said I think it's bullshit(being a run of the mill normal atheist), but if we are to believe the moral teaching of the Quran bible etc have worth why rule out this group??

 

Well Im finished for the day, so I'll leave some food for thought for you coming back

Fair enough the buffy the vampire slayer comment was a bit harsh, not really fair to accuse anyone of watching that sheidt, apologies!

But again you are getting caught up a bit with the name there, look at those commandments again omitting "satan". They are not an unreasonable way for a person to live their life? Have morals of a sort and each to their own as long as it is within the law.

I honestly hate being an advocate for any religion but I don't see how you can criticise their way of life and still back up your own religion.

 

The penalties for adultery and apostasy are also death, yet they still happen.
Physical examples of the Quran with altered text from very early on exist.

I think we'll avoid the Israel/Palestine issue, if that's ok.
It's too complicated to try and discuss it as a secondary issue on this article.

 

Things like word interpretations with the Quran differ between Sunnis and Shias. Things like that may be lost in translation as they say.

But how does this compare to the King James Bible or the Catholic bible?

Regarding SamirNasriIsAWanker's post on some Satanism guidelines, some of them are completely absurd. Nothing to do with religon but simply morally wrong.

That's just some I plucked out from that post. I'll admit that I know nothing about Satanism. Like I said in my post above, it all depends on what you believe Satan is but most people would accept that Satan is the symbol of wrong. Again, nothing to do with religion, but the concept of evil and immorality exist with all who believe in God or do not or whatever.

 

I don't see a lot of difference, to be honest, at least as far as how true to their originals they are.
We don't have original works to compare them to, so we can't say whether they're perfect translations or not.

I'll use a quote posted on Wikipedia from the Church of Satan's current leader to illustrate what LaVeyan Satanists believe:

"Satanists do not believe in the supernatural, in neither God nor the Devil. To the Satanist, he is his own God. Satan is a symbol of Man living as his prideful, carnal nature dictates. The reality behind Satan is simply the dark evolutionary force of entropy that permeates all of nature and provides the drive for survival and propagation inherent in all living things. Satan is not a conscious entity to be worshipped, rather a reservoir of power inside each human to be tapped at will. Thus any concept of sacrifice is rejected as a Christian aberration—in Satanism there’s no deity to which one can sacrifice." [/QUOTE]

 

Arent Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all the same with small differences? Basically every culture had their own ''god(s)''. Stories will change dramatically people will always add or remove what they want.
At some stage in everyones life they will worship god simple little things like ''God, please let me win the lottery'' or when one is close to death etc etc

Theres a time and place for religion but it should NEVER interfere with science.

I was brought up as a christian and I have to say im probably 80/20 - I dont believe in god but a small part of me sometimes think what if...

Religion is the root of all evil. Every single war that has ever happened is down to this one thing and theres way too much sh*t going on in this world why doesnt ''God'' sort this out?

Each to their own I suppose, but science is the way forward not religion

 

Just on another note did anyone know that a human sperm was successfully fertilised with an ape egg? The only reason it was aborted was due to religion

 

That's one time that I agree with religion.
What was to be gained by that?

 

If by doing that it creates a cure for a terminal illness then what is the problem? We've created clones and GM foods do you not agree with these either? Are you a religious person yourself?

It also proves that we arent as special as we think we are.

 

Am I religious? I'm going to go with a no on that one.

How would creating a half-man/half-ape help to cure terminal illness?
I'm wary of both cloning and GM foods.
The first needs to be properly controlled and regulated and the second hasn't been studied enough to be used freely yet, in my opinion.

It proves that we're not special?
You're labouring under the misapprehension that all of us thought that we were special in the first place.

 

Isnt that what religion is all about? That we are a special species?

There is very little difference between ourselfs and primates, whose to say that using the dna from both would not lead to a cure? Its trial and error at the end of the day. I dont think their intention is to breed a whole new species that will roam about the streets.

Religion proves jack anyone can create their own god and make others believe in it.

 

Are Gods Real?

No, there is only God

 

Ive Met Jesus once when i was trippin on acid.